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This is exactly correct. If Night Beagle wants my advice, he should feel free to take me up on my consulting services. I have already given him plenty of free advice in this thread/trainwreck.



Is Night Beagle your alt? You seem to be doing a lot of explaining things for him. If he wants to be on the CSM, he is going to need to speak up for himself.

You have said that he "has experience in this game", but I haven't heard him explain even a tiny bit of his game experience. When did he start playing? What has he done other than w-space? What has he done *in* w-space? His killboard history is very thin, does he consider himself a PVPer? A Miner?

These are very basic questions that Mr. Beagle seems to deflect every time they are asked. The problem is, they are critical to his campaign, and he doesn't seem to get that.

Two things, one I have quite a lot of experience dealing with large corporations and their interactions with people regarding intellectual property, mostly engineering, blueprints and other corporate assets that my employment is expressly hinged upon no one that is not approved knowing about. This is in no way a far stretch from what CCP's relationship is with the CSM. You are there, and exist solely because they allow you to be there.

You are being made privy to their intellectual property, and as such agree to be bound to whatever rules they set upon you. Failure to grasp that concept will lead you down a long, painful, litigious and expensive path. If I wished to delve deeper onto that subject I would run myself, though the presence of Cipreh, Nathan, Ayeson, and Chitsa would make that endevour largely irrelevant anyway. But know that I am very much aware of how structures like CCP's work, because it is not in any way unique. I have also been paying attention when two step talks and what he talks about and when he says things that are pertinent, especially to people like you, I make notes. You however do not seem to do so.



That is exactly what they are and that is all they ever will be. They are not game designers, their existence is in no way impacting to the game from the point of making changes within it. Your role in the CSM is that of an adviser, one who can serve as an "expert" when called upon to give an opinion of ideas that CCP has come up with. What CCP does with that opinion is neither your concern nor for the most part, any of your business. This is how dictatorships work, this is how they always work and it is on this basis that corporations both exist and prove to be more efficient than governments.

While the players at large may have the cash in some form, they are in no way paying for the intellectual property. The players merely pay for a license to indulge in the use of that property within the confines of the EULA, a violation of which can terminate your license. You the player have no claim or right to claim on any of that property. You seem to forget that you are only one, maybe two people paying for an account. Your total contribution to that "cash" is nigh on insignificant compared to the financial damage that can be caused a company by some non employee nitwit violating the NDA in any way. You also seem to think that you are somehow important in this game for one reason or another.

The CSM is, for the most part, a farce cultured by CCP for the placation of plebeians such as yourself who believe that they are in some way entitled to meddle in the affairs of CCP by way of being a customer. The only thing that keeps the CSM from being a complete farce are these elections where they allow said plebeians to vote on who they want to send to Iceland to sit and be told how things actually are and are going to be. Once that is done the interaction between CCP and the CSM is no more than a litmus test for their design ideas and criteria. The game was functioning fine before the creation of the CSM, its removal will/would do nothing to change that.


A corporation that is not a dictatorship will fail, it will become too slow, too bogged down with irrelevancies, and too tied up in bureaucracy to do anything and it will fall apart. Look at any decent company an you will find this to be the case, you don't even have to look very hard either.

Yes we do consider your alt to be very humorous.

I can personally confirm that Rover is not the same person as Beagle. Take that for what you will.

They don't sound a thing alike on TeamSpeak.

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In fact you have did the following: argue that CSM is not what I think, that my idea will not work and that I should fall into the crowd of chest beating politic style which seems to be appreciate by forum posters instead of supporting crowdsourcing. While the first two seems to be your beliefs and I take them as is without trying to convince you of the contrary even if we disagree on the arguments and ideas, the third point is in fact the key to the whole debate. Can one compare apples and pears. Can one

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I did explain in Xanders interview what I have done until now, pointing that I am not specialized in any way, being a all rounded character that sometimes PVP, sometimes do PI, and sometimes mines. I can fly almost all subcaps of 3 races, being in progress to train for the 4th, I cannot fly exhumers of fit most of mining crystals, I have limited PI skills and no Research/Invention. So in fact I might be considered as PVP/PVE type of player. Also I have explored WH's since 2011, and exclusively lived in them since the end of that year. Just a few click ingame go a long way in showing the date of creation and corp history.

Also I am not a forum warrior, but part of the majority of players that do not visit or just read the forums. This is being held against me, but remember that the forum is in fact being visited by a minority of players.
But all this are inconsequential, as what I propose is not to vote the best player in a specific field but to vote for the idea of greater participation.

On the alt accusations, I will participate in other podcasts and as already shown by Xanders interview, I definitely am not the alt of one of my supporters. However I do expect more attacks against him for the simple reason of supporting a candidate that makes the status quo shaky. Changes to the voting system and CSM are coming and I do hope that the current stagnant state of play will be changed.

Since Mr. Beagle has made it clear how fond he is of greek political ideas, in the spirit of camaraderie, I should mention that there is one Athenian practice that I would love to see implemented here. Ostracism. Slightly modified. Instead of having everyone vote on it, I would just get to choose someone who then has to GTFO for some determined length of time. I already have a list started...

lol, seems like everything that comes out of InSid is made of tears. This is great!

Guys guys, this is serious! If we don't vote for him the (former german ruling party beginning with an N) win!

I for one, think your ideas are fantastic and cannot wait to vote for Ayeson!!!