Live Events Discussion

Some? Yes. This was one of them.

So, I was aware when I planned this live event that there might be some controversy regarding the fact that we ran it this way. That's fine and people are entitled to their opinions.

The fact that people need to understand is that not every live event needs to be about killing people. Live events are not designed for people to be able to simply show up, gank the actors and grab a few shiny killmails and some loot. If people want to view live events like that, then they're going to be sorely disappointed.

So far, every single event that's been organized as been fully open to players screwing things up completely, and in most instances this has happened (thanks guys). It's lead to a couple of arcs being cut short because everyone's dead, and in some instances it's lead to sub-arcs spawning due to player interaction with existing high level storyline.

With this event, the idea was simple. We wanted to represent something happening that has been half a decade in the making, and is the first gathering of the heads of all seven tribes in over a thousand years. The formation of the Tribal Assembly is biblical in terms of the Republic's structure and operation, and is fundamental to the sustainability of the entire faction.

We could have simply put news articles out about this and not bothered to offer any form of interaction with players at all. However since this is such a massive event we wanted to have representation for it in game.

Lets look at it this way:

Your fleet shot at someone from the Republic government, in Republic space, under the eyes of CONCORD and the Republic Fleet. What exactly were you expecting to happen?

Not to mention the fact that they came in staggered, in groups, and engaged several seconds apart. This is a very bad idea regardless of situation when you're attempting a suicide gank.

I'll reiterate again, if you want to turn up to crash a live event and gank all the actors for no reason other than shiny loot and killmails, feel free. This is a sandbox and it's perfectly within the rules.

However, don't get bent out of shape when things don't go your way and you lose all your ships because you made a bad call.

Not every event is going to be about killing people. Live events are about exploring and advancing EVE's backstory while providing a method through which our players can interact with it. They have never been designed as a shiny killmail dispenser, and never will be.

The fact is that suicide ganks are cheap and easy to set up nowadays. A fleet of some thirty or so Thrashers will happily mince most sub-capital targets.

and let's face it, this event was advertised well in advance by the news story. there was plenty of time to get a gank organised.

That's not "player actions having consequences" that's basically just trolling. The goons didn't have an in-character reason for being there, their presence was purely a case of wanting to screw with somebody else's playstyle.

CCP built their sandcastle around a rock. The Goons came along and tried to kick it over, stubbed their toe and and now Alizabeth's whining about how unfair that is.

Deal with it. If you're not prepared to occasionally have to limp home with a bruised foot and a wounded ego, you shouldn't be kicking sandcastles.

I wasn't aware the Goons are a roleplaying alliance. Sure, individuals among you dabble in it, or more. But I don't buy that the alliance as a whole has any particular IC interest in what's going on in the story of the Minmatar Republic.

So your reasons for trying to kill the TTI was because OOC you wanted to kill the TTI, and your whole pro-slavery thing from earlier is just the excuse you came up with to try and justify the action IC.

That would seem to validate my whole sandcastle thing.

So what happens if an Apoc Imperial Issue gets flown around for a bit as part of an event? You guys going to turn up to protect it or shoot it?

He's not saying you can't, he's saying you are providing no RP reasons for it, thus can't ask for it to be treated as something different as a free "attack on a cool npc to shoot and troll".

From an RP perspective, probably less valid, as it gives little solidity to your character taking his decisions and acting as a believable person. Not going to say you RP good or bad, that is impossible to say from the exterior, but when you place one action first and then look for reasons, you end up doing things that contradict themselves completely and clearly. And each of them takes away depth out of your character and turns it more into an "excuse to do as you like" than a real person she's supposed to be (RP-wise)

"The players shape the course of the game, except when we don't want them to" ~ ISD AURORA, 2013

This is very troubling. CCP falcon should be fired for this terrible atrocity.