EVE General Discussion

The people that want WiS more then FiS don't understand what Eve is about.. All off them are just new players that want Eve to become Sims Online. Don't listen to them, they are the devil.

I'd like to see some nicer interiors in stations to look at while I'm spinning my ship. Thad'b nice.

Unfortunately, the state that it is currently in (and I don't know how much of that stuff from the video from 08 still exists) I am venturing a guess at another 3-5 years before it's ready to go.

I wouldn't doubt they will re-purpose dusties to work on Incarna once it's released.

Few, if any, people wish to prioritize Incarna content over FIS content. That path led to disaster.

What people want is for core game play development to be the priority again, but for the core tech of Incarna (and more importantly a proper content plan) to continue to be developed when and where possible.

I think most understand that especially right now, very few resources can be directed towards this work. But few is far better than none for now, especially if good sense is employeed when allocating development resources in the future.

Above all, the desire is for it not to be shelved completely... and for what work that is being done be centered around building a solid plan for inelligent game play. The EVE player base will not accept the tech being developed simply for eventual use in WOD. If it's going to be in our game, it damn well needs to serve an intelligent purpose.

The returns for Incarna will pale before the effort/investment that goes into it. The only logical reason why they're doing it for Eve is mainly because of WoD.

I play this game for the core Eve classic gameplay (as do most other players). Incarna, regardless of content, is just a side distraction - the icing on a cake. It will never be be treated as the core game because then you'll be having CCP maintain two distinct teams (due to the technical differences) to support & develop both features. It gets expensive. In time, they will have to choose between one or the other - from the cost vs returns standpoint.

I think they're failing to see the single non-monetary commodity from player - TIME. You either spend most of your time with the core gameplay or you spend it elsewhere. The core game has enough content for this to keep the player's interest indefinitely. Incarna will never fully monopolize the MAJORITY player's time, because if it does, then you might as well have spawned an independent sister game to fully monetize the investments poured into it.

Talking about the EVE classic game, it's not a dead-end as some people might argue (short-sightedly). A "game" is always valued first with the quality of its gameplay, how the game is presented (in terms of graphics) is really a secondary/almost non-critical concern.

Now, can you imagine where the classic Eve gameplay would be now if it had the same amount of money/resources (as per Incarna) poured back into it?

They already maintain a number of distinct teams working on a number of different aspects of EVE, it's not just 1 group of developers working on everything.

so... them losing 20% of their company and shelving the results (and another game) wasnt them saying "we cant do it" loud enough for you?
I hope they never say it louder then

WiS if implemented right was a good thing for the game, at least social wise. But the single player buggy mode we got its not even near what CCP have been promising over the last (3/4/5?) years. So or they finish the product or its just ******** to release content like that.

True, but i am suprised so many put all the blame of the last poor FIS updates on the back of WiS.

Dust should be added to the equation. That game, should it succed or not, as pulled most of CCP's ressources. WiS couldn't have been done at a worse time. Once Dust is launched, and if it's not a big flop, all will be well.

Without dust pulling so much ressources, i am sure WiS would have been delivered by now.