Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Last thing Eve map needs is bigger hisec. Also lol at calling wormholes "just fancy instances".

Eve needs more conflict drivers not just more place for same big old entities grow even bigger. Universe is big enough only some areas are just not worth to visit or conquer.

EVE needs something worth dying for. All we have now are reasons to kill.

Agreed, but if it was more npc controlled nullsec then it might be worth it. As things are in nullsec so many systems are pretty much empty. ANd really all that sov is doing is controlling moons anyway. And until they fix the tech stupidity (and not with a prenerfed pita alchemy band aid) even that leaves much of nullsec sorta worthless.

There was talk at one point of giving poeple ninja bases to plop down in nullsec and not get instantly discovered and stomped by sov holders. Something like this is really what's needed. And some lateration to local in nullsec. Like an expensive upgrade to keep it operating the way it currently does. Then alliances might be forced to pick and chose only some of their systems to have instant intel in.

my idea is this every solar system is linked with a gate so we can travel across the hugely an explored space in between,

what if it was a way to explore that an populated space with no sun or planets with no lows and regulations, but only the harsh realities of lawlessness where the harsh entities reside,
where you can find the ancient remnants of the past of civilizations long gone, but nevertheless the cause for their unexpected demise never cease to exist
a space rich of asteroid belts and minerals never before harvested but heavily watched by roaming fleets of extremely intelligent beings that will escalate any challenge and the longer you spent the more and the worse of theme brake there long hibernation to aide their assault with their capital ships ,
a vicious swarm that will go after you even when you warp to safety to kill you, and it will warp out to save itself if need be,
how we go there, From any solar system, we will need to build an new vessel an deep space expeditionary starship a ship capable of pinpointing a location in deep space around current solar system = new room creation,
the starship will be a civilian ship not a war ship will need to be capable to carry sufficient fully equipped ships Battleships and below sufficient for a small corporation .

the ships computer will retain the navigational location for moving people back and forth to join the game and you be able to do anything that you do in station in the starship you also will be able to open a cynosural field to get all the capital ships in for the fight .

this way we all can enjoy the game using all the toys the game offers with a challenging AI and Capital ship fights, for those that can't play continuously without interruptions and choose to enjoy playing against the AI with couple of friends

what were the issues again? and it sounds like we're just guessing that the cause of these issues is space...

wouldnt one of the most indicative symptoms of overpopulation be a lack of resources? and beyond that, competition for resources?

the only resources that i can think of that are lacking are research slots in NPC stations. but this is because of individuals who dnt want the hassle of planting a POS. Other than that, everything is in abundance.

there also dnt seem to be very many conflicts spawned by competition. mostly the inspiration for attacking others is simply itchy trigger fingers. Null sec is very quiet these days.



sure, for ppl who go just a couple WH deep from a hi-sec entrance and then come back. have u tried an actual nomadic lifestyle in WH space? because that would be the 'wilderness roaming' that is being referred to.

Last expansion was pretty much the best expansion to come out in years.

It completely revolutionized low sec pvp. (And low sec really needed some love)


Also adding space is a really stupid idea... Have you tried roaming null sec or non FW low? Its a ******* graveyard.





Eve doesn't need more space, it needs more content to fill that space.

These conflict drivers cannot just becompetitive farming instances like FW as we've all seen how that's turned out....

More space for players would only work if there was a feasible system so that the big guys couldn't just consume it.
For a snapshot, I'd say to introduce an independent and newly coined term of a "player-driven corp or alliance alliance" that can populate new star cluster pockets spread around 0.0 . Big coalitions cannot enter it and the functionality of these clusters are to harass the actual big factions somehow.

That is just for starters, so one can get past the aforementioned bottlenecks. And YES, there are bottlenecks, for those who can't seem to grasp that most new players or alliances can't even cross the boarder to low/0.0 to bring pvp becaused they're raped right at the door thanks to bubbled camps.
That's just one thing.



A REAL new expansion would only work if several old fundamental elements of the game were to change, if not drastically. Some points were pointed out, but there's a lot more to it. The big problem or question is "is such a literal expansion necessary just yet"?

For one, there would have to be some significant changes to hisec <-> lowsec <-> nullsec. Everybody knows that a lot of people feel comfy there. And of course, there has to be a safe haven here and there so that new players can learn the game and establish a foothold.

My dream would be that player alliances are the ones who can provide "sort of hisec" by their security alone - (I'm sure this has been suggested already here and there). So instead of having a hisec right in the middle, you'd imagine a galaxy that is actually through and through 0.0 and just a few safe clusters of NPC hisec systems, but the player alliances can for example establish a foothold and expand their reign so that they generate a virtual "hi/lowsec" around their spot.

New players would eventually "sign up there" and become part of that Alliance or whatsoever player driven faction. It would somewhere give you that "home town" feeling and you'd certainly be more willing to defend it. In other words, carebears could spawn or travel to the founded area, rat/mission and still have an NPC "Concord'ish" defense the better secstatus the ally can provide.

That would just be one vague way to produce the "realm pride" and "stay and fight" feeling for players. And by realm pride, I mean really being truthful to that spot you're at. EVE doesn't really have that. You may have your big monster coalition but somewhere, it is not the same like in other games, like DAOC or better yet, Planetside 2. You immediately stick with one of the three sides there and won't want to switch. Again, just a vague comment.

Whatever may be, I thought of being able to actually establish small states and empires, but this time not just "Oh, I'll just blue that one huge coalition".

And then there is the thing about a big "reset button" if one were to bring any sort of mindblowing expansions, because it would be so damn simple for the big coalitions to just reach out and consume the area as well - so there has to be something done about that too.

Regardless of what mega-expansion may be too, there has to be something done with Faster-Than-Light principles and massive zerging of capital ships.

However, such extreme idea of this "Outer Heaven" would cause a domino effect in various things, let alone the new questions. But that is just to be an example that one could "expand" without having to add new things, because I think we all can agree that other things REALLY need a fix first. And we (or better yet, CCP. We're just funding them :) ) are somewhere on the right track with Tiericide.


So just to reiterate in TL;IWIHPSIDR,
it is somewhere better to expand on whats there. Simple as it is, we are better off adjusting what we have -- but it has to be really BIG adjustments and not just painting over the rust (no minmatar pun intended).

It is also unfortunate that there are those who'll just deny anything and troll everything upside the head as they want to keep everything as dull as it currently is. Kind of like the USA now with the 2nd Amendment debate. Nonetheless, the game has to evolve somewhere or else there won't be people to shoot at in the future because they moved on to other awesome games.

The "No intel" is virtually impossible. CCP could of course make it difficult by removing channels alltogether, but this won't stop anybody from forming up Jabber/TeamSpeak/YouNameIt intel tools.
But I agree that the game would be far more interesting if things were drastically changed. Would also really introduce real "professionalism" rather than people just prancing around just because they overran others with FOTM stuff.

Would be great to see that systems actually require alliances/corps to build expensive stargates to link systems with one another. But that be a different idea for a different suggestion.

Majority of sov null should be turned into npc null, especially the farming hubs where you don't see hostiles for months on end, and the only threat is the lone afk cloaker that logs in and out in that system.

Black ops cyno range should be extended to the extreme with jam immunity, covering everywhere in null.