Wormholes

As this seemed to have been buried in the other thread...

More unpredictability for wormholes is how you increase conflict, for example by adding a completely random second static to each wormhole (by this I mean the connection can change between high sec, low sec, null sec and all classes of wormholes and once it collapses, it would be randomized again) and by removing the requirement to scan down your new static before it's visible on the other side. This removes the methods used currently for safe farming, and as such automatically encourages more fights without changing the actual balance of the game one bit (ie. the holes would still be mass restricted just like they are now).

By increasing the amount of connections, you increase the chances of encounters with actual players, thus naturally increasing PvP without changing game balance or introducing any new mechanics. By making those connections more unpredictable you remove the other problem that just about all active wormhole corporations have, which is running into the same groups all the time. While accomplishing both of those, this would also bring some more danger into site running by making it more difficult to create safe conditions for doing so. Obviously you could still reduce the mass to critical and bubble up every time you start your daily farming, but I really don't see any real drawbacks in making these proposed changes.

And no, I don't consider the troubles of farmers to be a drawback in the least. Nor do I consider it a drawback that this would make C4 holes less secluded.

I think of it the other way, instead of having useless systems that give you absolutely no reason to be there, this might actually bring some more life into those. Creating another variable that improves certain systems, definitely brings more conflict to that specific system, but overall the change is rather small and would only result in the major WH powers to fight over the possibly very limited systems with the most desirable static combinations, while the other wormholes still wouldn't see more action, possibly even less.

Do you have anything specific in mind that makes you reluctant to be against the random statics?

There are several examples of people who have overcome issues like this by jumping pods into the critical hole, followed up by a carrier full of small but effective ships such as t3's. That said, would it be inherently worse that instead of collapsing their connections, they'd change to critting them instead? Afterall, with the change we are looking for improvements, if none can be thought with the change, then the change is bad. I gave an example of a scenario that would be made possible with this, so naturally it would allow something that the current ways do not.

No not really... I guess the more i think about it, having a random second static in a C5 for example would be more valuable/interesting than a set static.

I really think that the larger groups in particular need more reasons to fight each other, other than to have "good fights".

I had the idea of introducing ten C7 wormholes with 4 statics with increased maximum mass but people where saying that what I had in mind would be OP.

For better or worse, it would kill 'hardcoreness' of c5s and c6s, with regard to logistics. Need pos fuel? Roll static 2 till you get a hs. Invade someone? Roll static 2 all night bringing 3 caps at a time in all the lows and nulls you run across.

I didn't say anything about looking for specific wh systems... that would be a pain in the ass. But if you are just looking for A high sec or A lowsec/null a 1:5 to 1:10 chance (depending on how the probabilities are calculated) isnt bad at all. Presumably some types of holes would be harder to roll than others (your c1 obviously) but a large group should be able to do most of them in short order.

I find a must to limit this random static to the possible holes for the static: No K-space random-static connections for C6, no wh random-static for C1 and C3. They would change too many things.

On the other hand, I would welcome the automatic opening of the K162.

Obviously there's always going to be ways to make it safer, no ones denying that. There's various methods for hole control, there's probe pickets, there's sound pickets at holes etc etc. Still, as long as there is a connection, there is always some amount of danger, especially if you play with capitals that are in siege or triage. Your scout wont help that one bit unless the cycle is already ended.

I don't object to the fact that there's fewer people in my timezone. I'm objecting to the fact that by the time we log on there's literally no content at all in WH space. That's a design problem, not a player problem.

-Liang

Ed: That is to say, people will never move to WH space as long as all the content is completed for the day by the time they log in. I'm asking for the content to be delivered a bit more slowly and throughout the day.

i don't know wtf you're talking about lil' kid

Are you saying that someone is coming into your wormhole everyday and running your sites before you get online?