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I'm lost without eve :P
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Kronus101
Dalek Exchange
#1 - 2013-01-28 19:20:54 UTC
My pc went poof recently and my dad lent me one of his old laptops. I want to know if it would be able to run eve.

System Information
Time of this report: 1/28/2013, 21:13:28
Machine name: WIN8
Operating System: Windows 8 32-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (9200.win8_gdr.121119-1606)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: HP Compaq tc4400 (RL875AW#ABB)
BIOS: KBC Version 59.35
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 2040MB RAM
Page File: 2071MB used, 415MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.02.9200.16384 32bit Unicode

DxDiag Notes
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

DirectX Debug Levels
Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

Display Devices
Card name: Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express Chipset Family (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM 1.0)
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) GMA 950
DAC type: Internal
Device Type: Full Device
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27A2&SUBSYS_30B1103C&REV_03
Display Memory: 256 MB
Dedicated Memory: 0 MB
Shared Memory: 256 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: unknown
Monitor Id: BOE0899
Native Mode: 1024 x 768(p) (60.004Hz)
Output Type: Internal
Driver Name: igdumd32.dll
Driver File Version: 8.14.0010.2697 (English)
Driver Version: 8.15.10.2697
DDI Version: 9Ex
Feature Levels: 9.1
Driver Model: WDDM 1.0
Graphics Preemption: DMA
Compute Preemption: DMA
Driver Attributes: Final Retail

These are the specs.
Brandon Syne
Straxus Innovations
#2 - 2013-01-28 19:41:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Brandon Syne
Lose that windows 8 and install XP or it WILL nom all your RAM and you will have issues. With XP you could probably run 2 clients on low settings.

EDIT: Never mind all that. the graphics chip doesn't have Shader Model 3.0. Won't run at all, ever.
Kronus101
Dalek Exchange
#3 - 2013-01-28 19:43:12 UTC
Brandon Syne wrote:
Lose that windows 8 and install XP or it WILL nom all your RAM and you will have issues. With XP you could probably run 2 clients on low settings.


Thank you :)
Brandon Syne
Straxus Innovations
#4 - 2013-01-28 19:44:32 UTC
Kronus101 wrote:
Brandon Syne wrote:
Lose that windows 8 and install XP or it WILL nom all your RAM and you will have issues. With XP you could probably run 2 clients on low settings.


Thank you :)


Read my edit.
Kronus101
Dalek Exchange
#5 - 2013-01-28 19:59:03 UTC
LOL ok will need to find another pc then
Kalle Demos
Ironic Corp Name
#6 - 2013-01-28 20:06:52 UTC
Screw XP, why not be even more ******** and use Windows 95. Theres very little reason a person should be using XP over windows 7/8, (inb4 generic comment from biased inaccurate article) AND theres an even lesser reason to have a less than SM 5 gfx card.
Brandon Syne
Straxus Innovations
#7 - 2013-01-28 20:09:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Brandon Syne
Kalle Demos wrote:
Screw XP, why not be even more ******** and use Windows 95. Theres very little reason a person should be using XP over windows 7/8, (inb4 generic comment from biased inaccurate article) AND theres an even lesser reason to have a less than SM 5 gfx card.


I gave a good reason you moron. XP is the tool for the job when you're working with low amounts of RAM. >4GB and sure, get some 64bit windows 7 or 8, but below 4GB these new, "improved" versions just waste significant amounts of resources.
Kalle Demos
Ironic Corp Name
#8 - 2013-01-28 20:15:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalle Demos
Brandon Syne wrote:
Kalle Demos wrote:
Screw XP, why not be even more ******** and use Windows 95. Theres very little reason a person should be using XP over windows 7/8, (inb4 generic comment from biased inaccurate article) AND theres an even lesser reason to have a less than SM 5 gfx card.


I gave a good reason you moron. XP is the tool for the job when you're working with low amounts of RAM. >4GB and sure, get some 64bit windows 7 or 8, but below 4GB these new, "improved" versions just waste significant amounts of resources.


One of my oldest comps has a single core, running windows 7 and it can handle 3 clients on low with apps and **** in the background, if you are having RAM issues you probably downloaded one of those annoying free programs to clean the registry like ccleaner or even worse AVG / McAfee, which do all sorts of crap to performance.

Try finding out whats causing RAM issues before blaming the OS

Edit: Please explain why anyone would even consider installing a 64bit OS on a comp with less than 4GB of RAM, you may as well install windows server and sql server while you are at it. Besides he said he is running a 32bit version
Call Rollard
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-01-28 22:33:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Call Rollard
There shouldn't be a problem installing EVE onto the laptop and trying to play it.

To my estimate that laptop can run EVE using lowest graphics settings, since its quite low specs.

However the graphics card isn't that good and the CPU isn't too powerful.

Best thing to do is install EVE onto the laptop and try it on the lowest graphics settings, best to give it a try and see if it works.
Hrothgar Nilsson
#10 - 2013-01-29 01:54:51 UTC
You will be able to use it to play EVE, but expect your graphics driver to crash during session changes, and for the laptop to lockup, overheat and shutdown when using TS3 and EVE at the same time.

Shouldn't have too many issues doing solo stuff, and a laptop is just fine for station trading.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-01-29 05:25:21 UTC
Kalle Demos wrote:
Brandon Syne wrote:
Kalle Demos wrote:
Screw XP, why not be even more ******** and use Windows 95. Theres very little reason a person should be using XP over windows 7/8, (inb4 generic comment from biased inaccurate article) AND theres an even lesser reason to have a less than SM 5 gfx card.


I gave a good reason you moron. XP is the tool for the job when you're working with low amounts of RAM. >4GB and sure, get some 64bit windows 7 or 8, but below 4GB these new, "improved" versions just waste significant amounts of resources.


One of my oldest comps has a single core, running windows 7 and it can handle 3 clients on low with apps and **** in the background, if you are having RAM issues you probably downloaded one of those annoying free programs to clean the registry like ccleaner or even worse AVG / McAfee, which do all sorts of crap to performance.

Try finding out whats causing RAM issues before blaming the OS

Edit: Please explain why anyone would even consider installing a 64bit OS on a comp with less than 4GB of RAM, you may as well install windows server and sql server while you are at it. Besides he said he is running a 32bit version



Why u no likey Crap Cleaner?


Granted, I've never used it for the registry, only as a tool for clearing parts of cached materials while leaving others untouched.... but I've never seen an issue.

Is there something I should know?


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

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  • Qolde
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#12 - 2013-01-29 05:34:22 UTC
intel gfx, useless for gaming
Othran
Route One
#13 - 2013-01-29 10:08:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Othran
Forget it, the GMA950 only supports pixel shader model 3 in software. If you manage to get more than 30fps on a single client with ALL the eye candy turned off it'll be a miracle.
Kronus101
Dalek Exchange
#14 - 2013-01-29 11:51:50 UTC
Downloaded eve last night and it doesn't work sadly Sad
Marcus Harikari
#15 - 2013-01-29 15:49:13 UTC
windows xp ftw!!!
Call Rollard
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-01-29 17:03:26 UTC
Kronus101 wrote:
Downloaded eve last night and it doesn't work sadly Sad


Not even with the lowest settings? Sad

Was it the FPS lagging a lot or just crashes when you open it?
Kronus101
Dalek Exchange
#17 - 2013-01-29 17:09:57 UTC
Call Rollard wrote:
Kronus101 wrote:
Downloaded eve last night and it doesn't work sadly Sad


Not even with the lowest settings? Sad

Was it the FPS lagging a lot or just crashes when you open it?



It's the onboard graphics it starts eve then it minimizes it and won't open it again.
Call Rollard
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-01-29 17:13:41 UTC
Kronus101 wrote:
Call Rollard wrote:
Kronus101 wrote:
Downloaded eve last night and it doesn't work sadly Sad


Not even with the lowest settings? Sad

Was it the FPS lagging a lot or just crashes when you open it?



It's the onboard graphics it starts eve then it minimizes it and won't open it again.


I was thinking since the graphics card had a Display graphics of 256mb it would probably have a chance. But it is a very weak graphics card anyway.

Seems like you are going to have to buy a new PC asap now...
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#19 - 2013-01-29 17:21:26 UTC
If you have newest drivers and that happened, than you need new computer. I have one laptop with very similar specifications, processor, ram, but graphic card is Nvidia GeForce 8600M GS, and i am runing XP 32bit. It works rather smoothly on medium, but without AA and shadows.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Call Rollard
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-01-29 17:23:55 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
If you have newest drivers and that happened, than you need new computer. I have one laptop with very similar specifications, processor, ram, but graphic card is Nvidia GeForce 8600M GS, and i am runing XP 32bit. It works rather smoothly on medium, but without AA and shadows.


But the graphics card on your computer is more powerful than the one he has shown.

Yeah if he hasn't gotten the latest graphics drivers, get the newest drivers and if it still doesn't work... then it wont work.
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