EVE General Discussion

irrelevant, it still shouldn't be an issue to use jita if you so choose.

I don't believe that.

You get nowhere with this (defeatist) attitude. The world is changed by people who believe that they can do it- no matter what conventional wisdom says, and no matter what the odds.

I often wonder why Kusomonmon isn't the major trade hub, considering it's near-central hisec location, plentiful stations and location in the middle of the busiest pipe in hisec.

With any luck, the phenomenon that is Jita will sort itself out: if you increase the capacity of the Jita node, all that will happen is more people will squeeze into Jita until that node gets overloaded too.

CCP needs to approach this from the opposite direction: how low can they squeeze the population limit until Jita simply breaks. Reduce the throughput of star gates. Add volume/occupancy limits to space stations — "docking permission denied: Jita 4 Moon 4 Caldari Navy Assembly plant is full, please find another destination", add order limits to market processing systems in stations. Add market processors to POSes. Have broker fees scale as the market processor gets closer to saturation.

Jita is only as big as it is because everyone can go to Jita.

I think it's because when Jita was first created, they gave its stations a fuckton of agents, so when yulai (the original super trade hub) was crippled by the dismantling of the superhighway, there were already a lot of mission bears in Jita selling their loot there, and the reason it was the caldari hub which became dominant was that most industry characters were made as Achura, since, at the time, Achura had the best attributes for most industry related activities.

Jita's size has given it enough inertia to keep going through all the various changes made to EvE

That's what I usually do.

But do you even have an idea at how many hours it takes to ferry in 20-30 *fleeted* freighters?
Even if I am quite well equipped (3 freighters + 1 JF, not so common for 1 player to have that) it still takes hours and hours to make them do the runs. You WILL end up overlapping prime time, expecially if you don't play Aussie times. Some had a fleet and this makes it even more of a chore to keep everybody of the fleet together.

Jita has a lot of tangential factors helping it be what it is. Being close to multiple regions (easy to cross check prices), close to low sec and much much more.

The one issue with Jita? Goods must go in there.

The brain-dead-easy solution that requires no servers upgrades?

We have remote trading skills already. We have remote research skills.
Just add a "listing" remote skill, so that goods placed within N systems off Jita are listed in Jita (not The Forge) market (one stop shop being one of the two factors that make Jita the preferred hub).

This would have the downside of having logistics in the teeth (the second factor that make Jita the preferred hub) because after buying 3 widgets you could have to go get them 1 in Perimeter, another 2 in another system.


Another solution: add a skill that lets people specify a target system for listing their goods. They will be able to take away stuff at their system. Effective at III+ (like some leadership skills are, not effective starting at I), adds one system radius per level . It's less sandboxy because it'd involve NPCs "magically" (a database query ) moving stuff deposited say in Perimeter or Urlen to Jita for you - at a price => ISK sink and we need ISK sinks. Of course Jita would see its item hangars removed or asking for an higher price than the above.

That's what I came up in 30 seconds, I am sure there are smarter and ingenous ways to tackle the issue.

Its called Amarr.