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I love how the only responses from CCP are, "We are reading it", and "We were misquoted!"


Typical communications failures we have come to expect from CCP.

I think you missed the part where we have been outlining how to rebalance null for months. POS are the one thing all EVE players can agree need to be fixed. Since, you know, not like there aren't a huge portion of them in highsec or anything.

Shocked this is still up for discussion, POS' are a right mess atm, they're a massive part of the game and it would mean alot to everyone playing if they were improved, even if they arn't even aware of it. One thing that sets this MMO apart from so many others is your ability to make something or somewhere your own.

Well, either a resident of 0.0, or WHs, or low, or high ... you know, the people a POS revamp would have an effect upon. I disagree that it would take everyone in CCP working full time only on POSs to get it done in a year. If that is reality, then they have other issues as a gaming company.

Please let rework the POS situation.

I'm pretty new into the game and my experience with a POS was brief. I plan to use POS'es in the future so i definitely think that revamping the POS and make it more accessible to the new players is a good ideea.

+1

I like the "groundwork already there" idea as I believe that it would make a massive move forward toward the revamp of the POSes rather than having the DEVS do a complete rewrite and completely different graphic scheme, sadly, I am not familiar with outposts, but that sounds like a solid foundation.

I also have mentioned a couple of times in this thread that they could put the base artwork into the hands of the player-base and that doing so would serve the purpose of allowing player participation and showing the player base that at least they are getting the ball rolling.

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Celly

Funny, all the things I was thinking about concerning this issue got brought up on the very last page.
Quite frankly, I can't believe Unifex meant his statement exactly as it was interpreted. It's true that a minor tweak of the existing interface would benefit a small number of people. But any major overhaul is going to affect the entire game. Bane makes the mistake of assuming the perception of POS as nullsec tools is the reality. We null residents might be more dependent on them, as places to moon mine, build super, store supers (on in the case of WH residents, store all the things). But highsec is rife with small POSes churning out blueprints, and lowsec POSes are almost as useful as nullsec POSes. The things are already everywhere, and are an integral part of the ecosystem. Any major revamp is going to have effects far wider-ranging than say, redesigning faction warfare.

Personally I think it would be just fine if most of CCP spent a year working on this. I feel that to some degree CCP is falling into the mental trap that consumes the makers of those "other" MMOs, that new and shiny content has to be released on a regular basis or people will get a sad and find something else to play. This is kind of missing the forest for the trees. If you improve overall gameplay, give players more options, make the existing options work better and be more relevant, you don't need to push shiny new stuff every single patch. That's the sort of thinking that ultimately led to the WiS debacle.

Now let's put this into the context of sov changes, and pulling staff off of other projects to work on the POS revamp. Why exactly is that a problem at all? The way I see it, a POS revamp would directly affect how sov warfare and territorial conflict evolves. How many strat ops consist of a battle at a POS, possibly followed by shooting the POS, or repping it? How many linchpins of territorial aggression consist of one POS with a couple bridging titans parked in it? certainly you could alter the sov warfare landscape with a new POS system.

And to take up an idea that's been brought up before, what if small corps/individuals could park POSes more readily inside systems that are owned by someone else, i.e. not just one per moon? The Personal POS, that lets the owner do a variety of relatively minor things without having to first remove the regular POS? As someone who lives in populated and active nullsec, people like this would mostly be targets for us (although we'd sitll have to spend time trying to evict them). But it would give both sides something to do. And there's much of null that's just empty. Dead. One player and five entire systems, all to themselves. A POS revamp could give smaller corps and individuals more reason to come into null and build something of their own, *without* having to get directly involved in the massive power game of sov-holding alliances and coalitions. I certainly like being part of that particular game... but if you want to keep nullsec active and churning, there need to be more tools whereby newcomers can profit from moving to null. The POS system is an obvious source of such tools.

Okay, too many ideas, post getting too long. But you wanna talk about enablers? Enablers need tools...

tl;dr A revamped POS system could be the biggest enabler of player activity in the entire game. The improved gameplay it could bring would be more than worth skipping other content in the short term.

You want an instigator of small combat? How about you let small towers cloak themselves to the Sov notifications. So they can drop them in alliances sov and secretly do raids till the alliance locates them?

How about you increase the expenses we have by allow towers to jump around to new systems for a heavy fuel price.

There is no limit to the options of what POSs can do for this game.