EVE New Citizens Q&A

Typically for combat you need:

- Support skills (Engineering, Electronics, Navigation, Mechanic groups).
- Weaponry Skills (battlecruisers will use medium hybrids, up to heavy drones, heavy missiles).
- The ship skill (Battlecruisers, under Starship Command category).

The bigger the ship, the higher you should have these skills trained.

You can also find a Brutix or a Myrmidon battlecruiser on the market and just show info on it. The show info window should have a Prerequisites tab that lists the skills you MUST have (the Battlecruiser skill), and a Recommended tab that has a bunch of certificates in it.

The certificates are groups of skills, once you train those skills you get the certificate automatically. The certificates are pretty good as a way to figure out what skills to train. Look it up for the battlecruisers and see what skills you need to train to meet the recommended certificates.

You can open your character sheet and look at the Certificates tab to see what you have. You can also open the Certificates Planner from that window to look into certificates and skills in more detail. You can then compare between what you have and what the Myrmidon or Brutix recommend.

EDIT: Here are the details. Scroll down past the image to the "I love it when a plan comes together" part and read there.

Can i find these certificate info online on a web page?

He only has Gallente Cruiser for the Thorax.

EDIT: Currently, if you train multiple race ships, for example Caldari Cruisers and Amarr Cruisers and Gallente Cruisers, and then you train Battlecruisers, you get the ability to fly not just the above cruisers, but the above races' battlecruisers, all of them.

This is because they are all governed by one skill, the Battlecruisers skill.

CCP has announced that they will split the Battlecruisers skill into 4 skills, one for each race. And that they will match the level you will have in these 4 split Battlecruiser skills to the level you currently have in the one Battlecruisers skill. Basically quadrupling your points, one skill becomes 4.

But only if you can fly multiple races at the time of the change, which will be in June? soemthing like that.

So people are going nuts and training skills that they don't really need to 5, for multi race ships that they aren't really going to fly all of them.

And also making fun to "hurry up" because it's been announced a long time ago, and will take a while to actually be implemented.

EDIT: Here is the info. Scroll past the picture and read at the "I love it when a plan comes together" part.

It's not something you have to prioritize as a newbie, and I don't think it'll give you much benefit anyway. Basically, the generic "destroyers" and "battlecruisers" skill is splitting into racial variants ("Gallente battlecruiser", "minmatar battlecruiser..."). For the summer expansion (you've got a few months), CCP is awarding the new skills based on what you could fly before. If, for example, you can fly all four races' battlecruisers (ie you have their racial cruisers trained up ~and~ the Battlecruisers skill), you will gain the racial battlecruiser skill for all four races.

People who don't have much better to do are training up Battlecruisers and Destroyers to V now so that they will only ever have to train those up once. If you waited until after the skill change, on the other hand, you'd have to train those skills up to V once per race.


Not that i know of. Go into your character sheet and there's a certificate planner that will list them. Also, the show info page of every ship has a list of certifications needed to pilot it for a standard fit for that ship.

Many ships have recommended certificates to fly "well". You can find these requirements in the info tab of any ship.

Certification is achieved when certain skills are acquired.

You can see these certs in your character sheet and plan your skill queue accordingly.

My suggestion, assuming the use is for PvE, that you work to get your Thorax fitted with T2 modules and all supporting skills in Gunnery, Navigation, Engineering, and Mechanics categories up to level 4 at least. If you are looking to move to level 3 missions, you will find them extremely tough without the corresponding support skills at a good level.

The best part about BCs and Cruisers is they fit the same size modules, so moving to the ship will be easier, than say up to Battleships, but it can also be detrimental as a lot of players move to the BC the moment they can train the skill and then they don't have the support skills to fly the ship properly.

I don't know that I would go with the "skills they don't really need to 5" route. Destroyers 5 is a week of training, and Battlecruisers 5 is super pimp and it is needed for Command Ships.

Personally i see certificates as guideline. If you dont know what to train, take a look at certificates and their requirements,theres always something there to train.

As for OP, i would say train up your tanking skills, ability to use Tech 2 modules is big plus once you go to battlecruisers. And yes, i did learn this the hard way long ago. Just becouce you can pilot a ship, dosent mean you can fly it well and properly fitted.

It depends on what you want to do with a BC. I routinely run Level 3s and exploration sites in T1-fit battlecruisers with T2 drones. My only PvE BC ship loss so far was in nullsec, and entirely a series of dumb mistakes on my part.

And personally, taking a new weapon system or racial ship for a spin can be fun. With the low cost of getting that weapon system to level 3, there's no reason not to try it out before investing weeks of training time.

Thanks for all of your replies!!! Yeah. After a couple weeks of trying both the BC in gallante I am pretty much disappointed by going up to the battlecruiser. The brutix can't really PVE with blasters and is mainly a pvp ship. And so I went with the myrm. I don't have t2 guns or t2 drones so there again I run into problems. The myrm is a drone boat so you can really make it an effective gun boat. Which wouldn't be bad if I had Drones II. But I don't which means Bad Dps. I think right now I have about 200 total Dps with 250 rails and drone link and drones. I currently have it fitted with an CCC, ACR, and nano pump in rig and 3 cap recharchers optical computer and afterburner. Two reps 2 hardeners and drone damage.
My drone damage is 55.
I took it out to do the blockade and its ok. I had to warp out a few times my 25 drones got killed and I had cap issues.
Cap is at 2:00 right now.

I feel stuck and I guess until I get drones 5 and guns II I'm toast