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Dev blog: You have insulted my honor - I demand satisfaction! Dueling comes to EVE Online

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fukier
Gallente Federation
#121 - 2013-01-17 18:29:43 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Gent BF wrote:
I don't get it..
why you call it a DUEL if others can still Interfere ?
Because it's a duel?
There's nothing about duels that makes it impossible for people to interfere — it's just dishonourable to do so. If you choose pistols at dawn, the roving band of bandits that happen to find you, and decide to rob you blind, will not particularly care about the elegance of your second's cravat or the eloquence of the challenge you make to your opponent. They will just want you to hand over the guns, valuables and silk socks.

Othran wrote:
Why are we trying to give high-sec more of the "benefits*" of low-sec when there's limited incentive to go there now?

There are methods to deal with this in low-sec and have been for years.
…and there have been methods to deal with this in highsec for years. This is simply the return of those methods after Crimewatch accidentally removed them. No new or special benefits are being handed out.


ffs i just liked a tippa postOops
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Seetesh
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#122 - 2013-01-17 18:32:05 UTC
You should modify kill mails so that the dual shows on the mail.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#123 - 2013-01-17 18:37:55 UTC
Two step wrote:
To all the folks posting here and POSes, please stop. This has nothing at all to do with the POS system, until I can challenge another POS to a duel.

That's a great idea!

POSes could be designators for group vs group duels. That is when the challenge is issued and accepted, all ships near POS 1 can fight all ships near POS 2, irrelevant of fleet status. That way you do not have to wonder about extra fleet members hiding in safe spots, or added to the fleet after the duel starts. Just look at what is near the other POS and you know what has a legal right to shoot you. But for that to work we need to be able to place 2 POSes close enough to each other that you can in fact look at the ships near the other POS.

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Lex Lynn
Bob's Unicorns of Destruction
#124 - 2013-01-17 18:39:24 UTC
Is it possible to add a Friendly Duel check box that terminates the flag at structure? This would be a fantastic learning tool. :)
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#125 - 2013-01-17 18:43:15 UTC
Lex Lynn wrote:
Is it possible to add a Friendly Duel check box that terminates the flag at structure? This would be a fantastic learning tool. :)


You might as well fight on sisi then.

The duals as described are just fine.

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Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#126 - 2013-01-17 18:44:05 UTC
Duels in hisec

"I want a duel"
"No"
*sadpandaface*

Fast forward

"I want your space"
"No"
*sadpandaface*

Peace in New Eden all over the place.

Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#127 - 2013-01-17 18:50:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:
Duels in hisec
…have existed since roughly forever. Why are people so upset that they're restoring lost functionality? Is it because the issuer can't call in the help from his logi alts with impunity any more?
Rengerel en Distel
#128 - 2013-01-17 18:53:20 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:
Duels in hisec
…have existed since roughly forever. Why are people so upset that they're restoring lost functionality? Is it because the issuer can't call in the help from his logi alts with impunity any more?


My guess would be yes.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
bufnitza calatoare
#129 - 2013-01-17 18:55:39 UTC
this is 1 to 3 steps away from high sec arena's
Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#130 - 2013-01-17 18:56:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Rordan D'Kherr
Tippia wrote:
Rordan D'Kherr wrote:
Duels in hisec
…have existed since roughly forever. Why are people so upset that they're restoring lost functionality? Is it because the issuer can't call in the help from his logi alts with impunity any more?


You missed the point, which is this

bufnitza calatoare wrote:
this is 1 to 3 steps away from high sec arena's

Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime.
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#131 - 2013-01-17 19:06:41 UTC
I want an option for us low and null seccers to automatically block duel requests so we don't get pop ups.

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Porucznik Borewicz
GreenSwarm
#132 - 2013-01-17 19:07:07 UTC
  • Challenges will respect the Block option in the contact list. If you have blocked another character, that character will not be able to issue challenges to you.

Expand this to be able to block whole corps / alliances and we are good to go in the topic of "chellenge bombing". OK?
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#133 - 2013-01-17 19:07:09 UTC
Jeez.

All they're doing is taking an existing work around and giving it a nice sensible purpose built interface.

You people are acting as if CCP is trying to stop you from shooting other players, when they're doing the exact opposite.
Othran
Route One
#134 - 2013-01-17 19:16:26 UTC
Tippia wrote:
This is simply the return of those methods after Crimewatch accidentally removed them. No new or special benefits are being handed out.


No its not as we'll see in the next 6 months.

You want to fight someone in high-sec then what's the problem? Don't do it on station - oh look 99% of high-sec warfare fixed P
fukier
Gallente Federation
#135 - 2013-01-17 19:16:43 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
CCP Dolan wrote:
Finally I can have truly honourable combat!

1v1 at the sun is now a real 1v1!

Yeah, because you couldn't 1v1 with the current mechanics.
Roll


no you cant due to crimewatch... 
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fukier
Gallente Federation
#136 - 2013-01-17 19:17:50 UTC
Two step wrote:
To all the folks posting here and POSes, please stop. This has nothing at all to do with the POS system, until I can challenge another POS to a duel.



hahah twostepp is now don quixote
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Della Monk
Monastery of Drakes
#137 - 2013-01-17 19:18:57 UTC
bufnitza calatoare wrote:
this is 1 to 3 steps away from high sec arena's


How, exactly? Letting people tell Concord to stay out of a fight is a different beast entirely from telling players to stay out of a fight
Shasz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#138 - 2013-01-17 19:19:23 UTC
From the devblog: "As soon as a challenge is responded to, you can move on to issuing the next request, so setting up a 3v3 for example will still be quick and easy if everyone is on the ball."

If my math is correct, setting up a 3v3 would require 9 challenges. 4v4, 16 challenges. A mock alliance tournament match anywhere from 64 to 100. (8v8 or 10v10)

I fail to see how that is quick or easy.

But it does solve the 1v1 duel easily.
fukier
Gallente Federation
#139 - 2013-01-17 19:23:48 UTC
Othran wrote:
Tippia wrote:
This is simply the return of those methods after Crimewatch accidentally removed them. No new or special benefits are being handed out.


No its not as we'll see in the next 6 months.

You want to fight someone in high-sec then what's the problem? Don't do it on station - oh look 99% of high-sec warfare fixed P


its called a fleet and wtm... so no not 99% fixed you ding bat!
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Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#140 - 2013-01-17 19:24:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Maxpie
I don't like the direction this is taking us quite honestly. What's next, the loser of the duel reappears in a ghost ship and has to warp to his wreck where everything re-materializes?

There is a difference between helpful interface/game mechanics and the theme park handholding you get in other games. Why can't we have just this one game that is different from all the others? If I wanted to play WoW or Star Wars, or whatever, I would, but I don't. Why push me away?



Edit: Also, will "everyone spam duel request" be the new "everyone spam convo"? Or perhaps both?

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