Jita Park Speakers Corner

This is a case of CCP managing their work programme after deciding on changes, and is really irrelavant, CCP can set a timescale, we just want them to commit


CCP have already suggested a dual-pos system whereby as one is phased in... the other is phased out... similar to what happened with fuel blocks.


This, and the above point are both implementation hurdles of making modular poses... we just want to see some POS love... no matter what state they're in.



They get phased out while the others get phased in... I.E: first have a period where both pos types co-exist... then a period where the old pos's can no longer be fueled... then eventually they go offline and eventually get deleted after a certain time period if they aren't picked up... again... this would be in the case of complete, modular pos re-design


That's why this improvement and possible re-design would more than likely take place over a number of expansions.

At this point... we only want ccp to commit to a promise of change and improvement... something which we thought they already had done, but blatantly going back on their word in this way, on something which would improve the lives of so many players... Is not only disappointing, it's one of the main reasons people end up un-subscribing.

I'll throw my vote in that POSes definitely need some work. I've lived out of a POS in a WH and nullsec and I've used them in highsec and it's always a massive pain. They really do need some work, the sooner the better.

Every Selsufficient corp (and there are really many around EVE)has at least 1 POS. I am alredy for 1 year around Lowsec and i really dont know if there is a single corp/Alliance that doest have a POS. My CEO has quite few to manage and it is really pain in the ass. And none wants to jump in to take the role of POS manager cos they sucks. Our corp could have 10 times more income than it is now from moon goo, but than there would be too much Complicated POSes around.

Hey and if the POSes would be modular i d have one just for giggles and RP.

I packed up my widdle high sec life and moved out to the great beyond of null land.

I had been told to expect rainbows and ponies.

Instead I was treated by the POS monster.

For the love of cornflakes CCP please fix.... Let me open a can in one. Maybe let me fix things in them or perhaps restack/repackage modules.

I honestly dont know how anyone can stand it.....the insanity that is POS life.

The modular idea is an awesome one...let us build our homes and live in them and want to fight to defend them.

~R~

You know those "Enablers" and "Instigators" ya'll mentioned throwing some bones to in Seagull's blog? The POS revamp would be a fantastic bone to throw. They're the "small group" you don't seem worth catering to in this case. Which is foolish. Even if you've abandoned Greyscale's vision of "everyone wanting to own one", they're the types of person who maintain those POS on behalf of larger groups, and so throwing that bone to that "small group" has far reaching consequences, well beyond that "small group." And who knows, do a good enough job and maybe that "small group" will be joined, and Greyscale's vision achieved.

That makes no sense since the major alliance power blocks are funded hugely through moon goo which is an industrial activity done with POses. besides that, the construction of supercap fleets can only be done at a POS and those same supercaps can only be stored at a POS.

Null bears have just as much of a stake in a POS revamp as the people living in wormholes.

"Only affect the group that manages POSes?"

Maybe if they were fixed, that number would increase.....

I play EVE since mid 2007. I tried to get something done with POSes about half a dozen time. It was always again and again a frustrating experience because it is so insanely clumsy and unintuitive. In the end, I stopped to care about POSes again, and let more motivated people do it.

I can imagine that I'm not the only one who doesn't get involved with POSes thanks to their bad design. Like several posters before me, I think that CCP confuses cause and effect here.

I have currently 0 POSs and 10 active accounts to my name, despite this I am posting in this thread to express that I would love to see a full expansion cycle dedicated to a good modular POS system, and am gravely disappointed that this looks unlikely at this time. This is from the perspective of someone who has to interact with them both directly and indirectly out in nul, and would strongly consider setting one up, primarily for subcap indy use, should the system improve.