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What is your favorite Eve myth?

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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#201 - 2013-01-08 10:47:22 UTC
I'd also add "this activity is not PvP".

No matter what you're referring to, it's PvP. The economy in Eve is fundamentally competitive, and so even if you're doing nothing but PI the other people selling PI stuff have an incentive to try to nuke your hauler so they or their buddies can sell their PI stuff for higher prices. If you only do PI to feed your own station, they have an incentive to nuke your hauler (and your station) because by supporting yourself you're an opportunity cost to them (they're losing the money they should be making from you buying their stuff).

Basically, any time you think there's no reason for someone to blow you up, undermine you on the market, block your shipping routes, etc, you're fundamentally misunderstanding the nature of the game. The usual offenders are high-sec miners, who somehow don't grasp that if they put a bunch of minerals on the market other miners have to sell their minerals cheaper.
Valleria Darkmoon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#202 - 2013-01-08 10:48:48 UTC
Sec status is an indicator of how trustworthy a player is.

Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification.

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#203 - 2013-01-08 10:53:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Anyway, the Myth about RNG (Random Number Generation) was already stated.
...and it was...?
Because, no, things being random is not a myth either. RNG really is R.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#204 - 2013-01-08 11:13:58 UTC  |  Edited by: dexington
Tippia wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
RNG = Random Numeric Generator
Riiiight…

…so how is standard code a myth, again? The rest I can understand that someone clueless enough would consider myths, but this one?!


How do you know what implementation eve uses as server side random number generator, it could be standard code or monkeys throwing dices for all we know, or not at all random... maybe some guy playing eve actually is able to predict the outcome of in-game evens that to others seem as random.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Dark Drifter
Sons of Seyllin
Pirate Lords of War
#205 - 2013-01-08 13:39:18 UTC
that they dont shoooot nooootrillls in greeet wild lands :P
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#206 - 2013-01-08 21:31:23 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Tippia wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Anyway, the Myth about RNG (Random Number Generation) was already stated.
...and it was...?
Because, no, things being random is not a myth either. RNG really is R.

Heh, proof here that reading is fundamental.

Anyway, done messing round with stubborn egomaniacs. The link was previously posted and the Myth was already stated. Do your own work and look it up.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#207 - 2013-01-08 21:37:03 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Heh, proof here that reading is fundamental.
Maybe you should try it then.
You said that the RNG being random was a myth, which it obviously isn't.
You then changed your mind to say that things being random was a myth, which it obviously isn't.

So what's the myth?

Quote:
Do your own work and look it up.
In other words, you can't find anything to present as a rebuttal. Unfortunately, we have that good old onus probandi. So no. You said it; you do the work; your link didn't show anything even remotely relevant.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#208 - 2013-01-09 03:33:45 UTC
Tippia wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Heh, proof here that reading is fundamental.
Maybe you should try it then.
You said that the RNG being random was a myth, which it obviously isn't.
Physician, heal thyself and practice what you preach. I already posted a link which explained the Myth immediately after you started in on this foolish crusade of yours.

Tippia wrote:
You then changed your mind to say that things being random was a myth, which it obviously isn't.

So what's the myth?
Oh what tangled webs we weave.........(Unfortunately for you) I never said that. I must say it's almost sad seeing you make stuff up now.

Tippia wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Do your own work and look it up.
In other words, you can't find anything to present as a rebuttal. Unfortunately, we have that good old onus probandi. So no. You said it; you do the work; your link didn't show anything even remotely relevant.
lol, you're definitely one stubborn blind lazy hypocrite. I already posted proof. Obviously it's too painful for you to read something that contradicts and disproves your statements. Anyway, the burden is now on you to post evidence that proves your allegations. If not, then please stop your foolish ranting.
SpoonRECKLESS
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#209 - 2013-01-09 05:09:09 UTC
Test is full of sexy men. Willing to do things for isk.


The willing part is true tho.


What I have seen or heard can not be unseen or unheard.

Blue

Signal11th
#210 - 2013-01-09 08:37:53 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
CCP is ruining the game for my category of players because they only care about (insert player category here).

CCP is trying to turn EVE into WOW in space.

CCP are pets of the Goons.

Goons are actually the CIA.



Well tbh I wouldn't say all of those are myths........

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!

Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#211 - 2013-01-09 10:32:13 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:

Sovereignty null is significantly safer for pure PvE than high sec



^^^ That is my favourite myth.

Though the guy I'm quoting said it unironically, which makes me sad.

"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#212 - 2013-01-09 10:36:59 UTC
"Drone boats"

"Kiting is harder than brawling"

"Hisec is not a starter zone done horribly wrong"

"CCP needs mission runner subs"

"+5s"

.

Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#213 - 2013-01-09 12:33:25 UTC
X is balanced, you are just jelly coz you don't have an X. Get an X of your own and see how balanced it is!

Sec status is relevant to player type.

OGB is a way for a smaller gang to take on a larger one.

Jovian space will be opened in a future expansion.

WIS will provide ample entertainment return for time invested.
Rawk Chick
#214 - 2013-01-09 12:42:30 UTC
EVE is a Sandbox...
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#215 - 2013-01-09 12:47:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Physician, heal thyself and practice what you preach. I already posted a link which explained the Myth immediately after you started in on this foolish crusade of yours.
No, you posted a link that explained what an RNG is, and it showed that no, it's not a myth.

You first claimed that “RNG = Random Numeric Generator” is a myth. You then provided a link that rather showed that it isn't — that's what an RNG is, and that's what it does. At most, it's a spelling error, but then it's your error, not a myth.

Quote:
Oh what tangled webs we weave.........(Unfortunately for you) I never said that.
…except, of course, that you did.
Specifically, you revised your statment to “claiming that it's 'Random' is the Myth”, which is not only different from what you said first, but also complete nonsense. The RNG in EVE affects a ridiculous amount of things. You'd have to be a lot more specific than that if you want to call it a myth (and even then, you'll probably be wrong due to how much die-rolling there is around here).

Quote:
I already posted proof. Obviously it's too painful for you to read something that contradicts and disproves your statements.
Maybe it would be if you posted something that proved me wrong or contradicted me. Instead, you posted something that proved your first claim wrong and had nothing to do with your revised claim.

So, we're back to the same old question: what's the myth? Because no, the RNG is not a myth, nor is its influence on a vast array of things in EVE.
Zyxtyr
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#216 - 2013-01-09 16:23:40 UTC
My favourite one is ... thank you for contacting us, but our logs show nothing....
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#217 - 2013-01-09 16:29:29 UTC
You have to join a corp/alliance to get into nullsec.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#218 - 2013-01-09 16:34:45 UTC
That role-players and hi-sec carebears, like DeMichael Crimson, are entitled to something whether it is a a safe haven, incarna or that they have the power to ban players that they don't like from EVE.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

ing SpeedyJ
The Institution of Death
#219 - 2013-01-09 19:05:25 UTC
U can play EvE with joystick.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#220 - 2013-01-09 19:27:32 UTC
Tippia wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Physician, heal thyself and practice what you preach. I already posted a link which explained the Myth immediately after you started in on this foolish crusade of yours.
No, you posted a link that explained what an RNG is, and it showed that no, it's not a myth.

You first claimed that “RNG = Random Numeric Generator” is a myth. You then provided a link that rather showed that it isn't — that's what an RNG is, and that's what it does. At most, it's a spelling error, but then it's your error, not a myth.

Quote:
Oh what tangled webs we weave.........(Unfortunately for you) I never said that.
…except, of course, that you did.
Specifically, you revised your statment to “claiming that it's 'Random' is the Myth”, which is not only different from what you said first, but also complete nonsense. The RNG in EVE affects a ridiculous amount of things. You'd have to be a lot more specific than that if you want to call it a myth (and even then, you'll probably be wrong due to how much die-rolling there is around here).

Quote:
I already posted proof. Obviously it's too painful for you to read something that contradicts and disproves your statements.
Maybe it would be if you posted something that proved me wrong or contradicted me. Instead, you posted something that proved your first claim wrong and had nothing to do with your revised claim.

So, we're back to the same old question: what's the myth? Because no, the RNG is not a myth, nor is its influence on a vast array of things in EVE.


Maybe his definition of myth is different or something lol. As I've learned, with some human beings, not amount of proof will suffice.

Such discussions remind me of this skit lol .