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EVE Online: Retribution 1.0 Feedback

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Aphelion Thunderclap
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1801 - 2013-01-08 12:03:20 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
EVE Online: Retribution 1.0 has been deployed successfully.


Whens the emergency reboot scheduled :P
Chuckeysbride
Aeronautical Innovations
#1802 - 2013-01-08 12:17:14 UTC
CCP I don't know what the hell you're thinking but this new bounty system sucks ass. Specifically the ability to place a bounty on a character, corporation or alliance for no reason at all. You said this system would be abuse proof, yet, that's the first thing that has happened. You need to add stipulations, such as only being able to put a bounty on someone if they commit a criminal act against you or security status below -1 as before, denoting someone who is committing crimes. I can tell you now from my gang to others I've been talking to you're about to lose a **** ton of subs if this is not fixed and soon. Myself, I have 5 days left on my sub and around 6 to 8 on my other three and have no intentions of renewing until this is fixed. If it's not then I am prepared to walk away because as far as I'm concerned, you just ruined this game.

Chuckeysbride CEO of Aerospace Innovations and member of Broken Toys Alliance.

VonKolroth
Anarchist's Anonymous
#1803 - 2013-01-08 12:32:37 UTC
Chuckeysbride wrote:
CCP I don't know what the hell you're thinking but this new bounty system sucks ass. Specifically the ability to place a bounty on a character, corporation or alliance for no reason at all. You said this system would be abuse proof, yet, that's the first thing that has happened. You need to add stipulations, such as only being able to put a bounty on someone if they commit a criminal act against you or security status below -1 as before, denoting someone who is committing crimes. I can tell you now from my gang to others I've been talking to you're about to lose a **** ton of subs if this is not fixed and soon. Myself, I have 5 days left on my sub and around 6 to 8 on my other three and have no intentions of renewing until this is fixed. If it's not then I am prepared to walk away because as far as I'm concerned, you just ruined this game.


Adding 50m to Aerospace Innovations for badlord spergposting.

Sent from my Gallente Erabus Titan on -FA- SRP

Apocalypse inc
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1804 - 2013-01-08 12:55:48 UTC
This!


NPCs will now only target drones in their size category.
Elite frigates and cruisers NPCs will go for small drones and above.
Frigates and Cruisers NPCs will go for medium drones and above.
Battleship NPCs will go for large drones.


Tis a good thing me thinks

Dex Tera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1805 - 2013-01-08 13:02:54 UTC
still no fix for the hic bubble and cloak delay bug ccp you ar rediculous UghWhat?Twisted
Rothana Haldane
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#1806 - 2013-01-08 13:56:19 UTC
With tier three BC's being all and mighty, you should A) reduce the cycle time of the Warp disruption field generators and B) allow HICS to be repped with the bubble up. Unlike a Sabre, HICS can't burn out of the bubble at max speed. with the flag on heavy Interdictors you just made their life expectancy go from somewhere decent to practically 0. I agressed , 5 oracles came in and I died in less then 20 seconds with max shields and excellent resist's. I used to be able to tank Battleships with the hics, now I'm lucky if I could tank anything. 90% resist and I'm still taking 1500 to 3000 damage a shot from tier 3 BC's. Maybe take a look at the resistances as well to see if those are working properly.
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#1807 - 2013-01-08 13:59:48 UTC
So wait I could have been smartbombing and then redocking all this time?
Darn my disinterest in the matters piratical.
Dzajic
#1808 - 2013-01-08 14:11:18 UTC
Dear CCP, can you please remove the sound for NPC agro timer? It is worst thing ever. Ideally allow us to toggle all individual timers sound on and off and maybe even volume of each. But please for love of god until you do that, kill that buzzer, please.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#1809 - 2013-01-08 14:59:19 UTC
Doing a stack all in a POS mobile lab hanger GUI takes much longer to complete than in station, even though there are only 18 items in the hanger. Painfully slow. wth?

Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
#1810 - 2013-01-08 15:14:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Panhead4411
"open wreck sound no longer plays when wreck is marked as viewed"

Can you please just remove the sound period, or i'll be marking every wreck as viewed just to not hear that sound...oh wait, i would have to turn sound 'on' again since there are WAAAY too many annoying sounds that need not exist.

I get that you want immersion with all these extra sounds, but it doesn't work, no matter how many cute little sounds you add, i'll still be very much aware that i'm sitting at a desk with a keyboard, mouse, and monitor infront of me.

Also, your new StarGate sounds that were aimed at 'making those long hauling trips less monotonous'...well, its not working, my long 30+ jump trips are still just as boring, maybe my client is broken? Some (SOME) of the new gate sounds were "oh, that's kinda neat"...but most were "WTH was that sound, did my audio card/vent/TS just crash?"

http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing    < Unified Inventory is NOT ready...

Knalldari Testpilot
#1811 - 2013-01-08 16:26:27 UTC
Chuckeysbride wrote:
CCP I don't know what the hell you're thinking but this new bounty system sucks ass. Specifically the ability to place a bounty on a character, corporation or alliance for no reason at all. You said this system would be abuse proof, yet, that's the first thing that has happened. You need to add stipulations, such as only being able to put a bounty on someone if they commit a criminal act against you or security status below -1 as before, denoting someone who is committing crimes. I can tell you now from my gang to others I've been talking to you're about to lose a **** ton of subs if this is not fixed and soon. Myself, I have 5 days left on my sub and around 6 to 8 on my other three and have no intentions of renewing until this is fixed. If it's not then I am prepared to walk away because as far as I'm concerned, you just ruined this game.

this!

-2 subscriptions
Alexander Renoir
Covenant Trading Agency
#1812 - 2013-01-08 17:14:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexander Renoir
I am also gone CCP. More than 4 years continued subscription. You have lost a safe monthly subcription fee to a sh!t system of bounties no one ever asked for.
Implement a radical break for spending bounties on every known char in EVE. Bring back the border not being able to spend bounties on positive security rated chars!

Send me your re invite after the change of this dumb bounty system. All other e-mails from CCP-Corporation will be marked as SPAM!
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#1813 - 2013-01-08 17:48:03 UTC
Local still randomly decides to not apply sec standings on login.

Knalldari Testpilot
#1814 - 2013-01-08 18:09:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Knalldari Testpilot
Urgg Boolean wrote:
Like many who posted before me, I have been "adapting".

Retribution seems, once again, to be a poorly thought out set of changes. These changes seem so illogical that I must belive that CCP has some weird hidden agenda. Other aspects of Retribution seem to be simply and inexplicably designed to bankrupt CCP by annoying and pissing off the player base.

1) dental drill flagging alarms - my speakers easily reproduce them; my ears easily hear them - they are annoying as hell. I have many other complaints about the new sounds. In fact, I would say that the new sounds have been engineered by morons. And QC ? I guess it does not exist at CCP.
2) NPC AI - There is no consistent pattern of NPC aggro that I can identify that will allow for an aggro management strategy. I can't figure it out as it does not seem to be consistent based upon many Dev blog entries and/or player statements of functionality nor my own personal observation. The NPCs seem to randomly switch targets regardless of who is doing what or when it gets done.
3) NPC EWAR is seriously overpowered. This is not balance in any way. This has NOT increased the fun. It's only annoying as hell.
[...]
5) Bounty system : engineered by morons. Who designed a system that allows frivolous bounties to be placed on anybody/everybody? There was no foresight to see that this "new and improved system" would be abused to scare noobs and could be interpreted as cyber bullying. Good job.

EvE is/was a fun game. What is no fun at all is the seemingly uninterrupted stream of changes for the sake of change that are poorly thought out and/or down right annoying. I would love to hear an objective analysis (or even an opinion) from the Dev Team with regard to exactly how all these changes have improved the game and added to the fun.

In the drive for balance, they have created imbalance. In the drive for more challenge they created layered annoyances. I don't like the direction this game has taken. There are a growing number of disincentives to sub.

+1
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#1815 - 2013-01-08 18:15:42 UTC
What the perkle garaztin rice balls is wrong with you people?
Bounties always have a reason behind them, and donot have an effect on you at all!

CCP go and make a login banner in 60 point flashing font that bounties do not equal kill rights!
I garuntee the problem will be over after that.
From seizures, knowledge or the great hunt of the complaining parties that started the assault on our eyes.
Alexander Renoir
Covenant Trading Agency
#1816 - 2013-01-08 19:23:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexander Renoir
NEONOVUS wrote:
What the perkle garaztin rice balls is wrong with you people?
Bounties always have a reason behind them, and donot have an effect on you at all!

CCP go and make a login banner in 60 point flashing font that bounties do not equal kill rights!
I garuntee the problem will be over after that.
From seizures, knowledge or the great hunt of the complaining parties that started the assault on our eyes.


You are wrong!
Most of the current bounties do not have an reason behind them! They are spend from some idiot with 100k ISK for no good reason.
For a question in a help channel, for declining accepting a convo or declining to go into your fugging dumb corp or just because you have no bounty at present etc.
We all know, that a bounty does not give legal rights to kill or attack someone! AND THIS IS NOT THE POINT! To reduce the problem to a "simple misunderstanding" would be a crude mistake and would be highly inappropriate.

And your "garuntee" that the problem will be easy gone by just adding a dumb banner into the loginscreen is impudent and shows us, that you have absolutely NOT understand the real problem behind this stupid new bounty system!

A bounty gives someone a touch of an criminal. I, and many many others, do not wish to have a bounty because They NEVER did somethring wrong!

A bounty effects me and others. Even if it is 100k ISK. At least it effects CCP as corporation with the need to generate real money with their product. Two Accounts canceled. After more then 4 years continued subscription (a long time supporter of a help channel). More will follow. I know that. My last Petition was answered with a mass response. I am not allone.

It is not the little bounty for nothing.. it is also the message that comes with it. The message from the disposer AND from CCP.
Think about it. Why does CCP exludes themself from placing bounties on Dev's, GM's and Volunteers? They know that the current system is just a dumb griefing tool which is used from every idiot with 100k ISK.
Chuckeysbride
Aeronautical Innovations
#1817 - 2013-01-08 20:23:04 UTC
VonKolroth wrote:
Chuckeysbride wrote:
CCP I don't know what the hell you're thinking but this new bounty system sucks ass. Specifically the ability to place a bounty on a character, corporation or alliance for no reason at all. You said this system would be abuse proof, yet, that's the first thing that has happened. You need to add stipulations, such as only being able to put a bounty on someone if they commit a criminal act against you or security status below -1 as before, denoting someone who is committing crimes. I can tell you now from my gang to others I've been talking to you're about to lose a **** ton of subs if this is not fixed and soon. Myself, I have 5 days left on my sub and around 6 to 8 on my other three and have no intentions of renewing until this is fixed. If it's not then I am prepared to walk away because as far as I'm concerned, you just ruined this game.


Adding 50m to Aerospace Innovations for badlord spergposting.



congrats. I just added 150M to you and 150M to your corp for being a douche. Have a nice day and enjoy!

Chuckeysbride CEO of Aerospace Innovations and member of Broken Toys Alliance.

Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1818 - 2013-01-08 21:57:50 UTC
Alexander Renoir wrote:
NEONOVUS wrote:
What the perkle garaztin rice balls is wrong with you people?
Bounties always have a reason behind them, and donot have an effect on you at all!

CCP go and make a login banner in 60 point flashing font that bounties do not equal kill rights!
I garuntee the problem will be over after that.
From seizures, knowledge or the great hunt of the complaining parties that started the assault on our eyes.


You are wrong!
Most of the current bounties do not have an reason behind them! They are spend from some idiot with 100k ISK for no good reason.
For a question in a help channel, for declining accepting a convo or declining to go into your fugging dumb corp or just because you have no bounty at present etc.
We all know, that a bounty does not give legal rights to kill or attack someone! AND THIS IS NOT THE POINT! To reduce the problem to a "simple misunderstanding" would be a crude mistake and would be highly inappropriate.

And your "garuntee" that the problem will be easy gone by just adding a dumb banner into the loginscreen is impudent and shows us, that you have absolutely NOT understand the real problem behind this stupid new bounty system!

A bounty gives someone a touch of an criminal. I, and many many others, do not wish to have a bounty because They NEVER did somethring wrong!

A bounty effects me and others. Even if it is 100k ISK. At least it effects CCP as corporation with the need to generate real money with their product. Two Accounts canceled. After more then 4 years continued subscription (a long time supporter of a help channel). More will follow. I know that. My last Petition was answered with a mass response. I am not allone.

It is not the little bounty for nothing.. it is also the message that comes with it. The message from the disposer AND from CCP.
Think about it. Why does CCP exludes themself from placing bounties on Dev's, GM's and Volunteers? They know that the current system is just a dumb griefing tool which is used from every idiot with 100k ISK.


+1
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1819 - 2013-01-08 22:22:42 UTC
Tuxedo Catfish wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
The new activation timers are WORSE than they were before.

God, I feel like I'm stabbing myself in the **** every time I activate a module, it's so painfully laggy and jerky.
Please, for the love of god, change it back.


I'm having the same experience -- module timers suddenly continuing for 1/3 of an extra cycle or more before deactivating properly when before they synced nearly instantly. I've seen this phenomenon before when I was on a high-latency connection but this time nothing's changed on my end. It makes ratting horribly irrating.

They also seem to speed up and slow down arbitrarily, and the modules often won't actually deactivate at the end of the visual cycle, they'll still pulse red for a second or two.
It USED to be that the visual timer would always be of the same length and would deactivate along with the module. What CCP has done is make them basically make full circles, but at the expense of LESS accuracy, not more.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

James Aya
The Tebo Corp
#1820 - 2013-01-08 23:42:27 UTC
the cargo sound sucks, the inventoryt still sucks, and im gonna rage about it.