EVE New Citizens Q&A

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A ME job won't make invention slots go into queue.
A PE job won't make ME slots go into queue.

Each single type of industry has it's own slots they use, some are more likely to be queued then others cause some are more profitable then others.


Most important thing to make a blueprint better (as in less expensive to build the item) is the ME waste. Lowering waste means less minerals are required, means less money needs to be invested in minerals.



Copies slots are likely taken too. This is cause if you place BPO into manufacture it's "gone" until the job finishes. Which means you can't research it at the same time or build another batch of the item. Making copies and then use them for production means your original is always available for research.

Another thing is that shipping a high-end into null-sec is risky. Why risk that it gets blown up while in transport or even be locked out if you get kicked out of the space without having the time to evac your stuff, you can just copy in high-sec. Leave the original there and take the copies you need into null. If those get destroyed/locked out, too bad, time to make new copies.

Last thing people use copies for is the T2 invention. It requires a T1 blueprint (either original or copy). But as the invention job destroys the T1 blueprints using originals is quite expensive over time.


Most invention jobs are done at a POS for 1 single reason. Invention is chance based and with a POS lab you get a higher base chance which means you are more likely to roll the dice to success and get a T2 BPC.

Thanks for all the feedback


So other players are making money out of these long waiting times to research a blueprint ?

As i said at the start i just think 18 days to do some thing as simple as this is way to long .The cost of buying a researched blueprint are hiring a private pos production line would most likely take up any profits i could have made.Sure it will work fine for large runs but for the scale of production a new player can do i doubt its worth the cost.

The more i learn about industry and the markets the more i start to think its all stacked against new players.I am Not looking to pay my subs with isk made in game just wanted to explore it and invest the profits in ships etc .Just seems like every thing is overpriced and profit margins are tiny compared to the amount of time you have to invest.And the fact that so many blue prints are out of the reach of new players .


People say its a sandbox and a player driven economy but the control availability distribution of blueprints seems to be what its all about to me at the moment. Those who have and those who have not .Maybe in time my thoughts will change but thats were i am at the moment with eve )

You have the wrong mindset to be an Indy. Mcdonalds didnt sell 1 million hamburgers its first day it opened did it.? No Indy takes time and with time comes profits. It takes a dedicated skill plan also inorder to maximize your production costs and refine rates. Unfortunately a Indy skill plan does not hlep in pvp or pve so that is why alot of players create alts for Indy or vice versa.

1.) Then don't put the job in the queue. EVE is what YOU make of it and reacts to YOUR decisions.

2.) Nobody is making profit of those queues. It's just that other people are currently researching using that production line (and others are already waiting in that queue).

3.) As mentioned, the way to get rid of those queues is to get access to a research POS (either make your own corp and deploy one once you have the standings in high-sec, get into a corp that already has their research POS up and running or look for services that grant you access - usually at a cost).

4.) Industry is a long term planning thing. Even those big industry guys did start with crappy blueprints and small stuff and expanded from there. As mentioned, those big real life companies started small too. Microsoft didn't become a huge company the second they started the company, it takes time, effort, dedication and lots of research and planning. The same counts for EVE, do your research, take small steps and advance / expand.

Eve isn't an instant gratification game, it even says so in the intro video, "If you are patient, you can amass the wealth of nations."

But it's usually the case that what you can do three weeks from now is what you can do now, albeit with less skill and profit. There's plenty of items in the world you can build and profit from without doing material research. There's even helpful web-based tools that will estimate material cost, grab the market price from eve-central, and tell you how much profit you stand to make on an item.

Entirely incorrect? I'm sorry but at the very least the word "CCP" is correct, as are the paragraphs about POSes, so kitten you and your hyperbole.

Clarification, you have _four_ options here:

1: Deal with it and wait a month. Your job is going to take a long time to finish too, so you'll be annoying the other high-sec and low-sec dudes trying to use the public facilities.

2: Build a POS, as others have mentioned. Generally speaking most people won't bother them in high-sec, and they're fairly easy to fuel with Planetary Interaction, so you should be able to find some people willing to halp you support one in exchange for some of the slots. Or you can make you own corp and do it completely solo.

3: Move to Sov 0.0, have a corp/alliance that has stations built with facilities you're allowed to use.

4: Move to NPC-owned 0.0, do your research there for a few months, then fly your crap back for manufacturing using a stealth bomber. Or just stay there, it's pretty fun.


Basically, think of manufacturing/research as using the WC: manufacturing is the urinals, the public ones are limited but the line moves fast enough that you can get there with a bit of waiting. Research is the commode, if you want to use a public one you'll have to do it in the skeevy part of town where no one else wants to go because of the likelihood of getting a knife to the kidneys. Or you can just have one in your house or apartment complex and not bother with public facilities at all.

Think i now know what all my options are now.I just have to get used to the time frames in eve and alter my expectations.Suppose Rome was not built in a day

It can be very frustrating when you get a idea in your head that you think its good.Do your maths and some research and then you hit a brick wall .But at the same time that what i like about EVE its a challenge .Spat my dummy out three times in three months but still coming back for more

Again thanks for the help and advice think i can move on from this now)))

If you're new, get out of the main empire trade hubs ASAP. You can't complete with the vets who operate out of there. There are plenty of viable markets out in the fringes, including high sec areas that are isolated by lo-sec. Many of these areas also see a lot of PvP and the pilots there have a dear need for ships and modules, even tech 1 ones.

NPC lab slots are on much shorter queues and even without that you can make money off of ME 0 BPOs as many times no one is even making a specific module locally.

It requires a lot of exploration and out of game logistics planning. But there are also a lot of corps that market and specialize in helping with that.

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