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Jukebox Petition - Bring it back!

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Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
#201 - 2012-12-17 21:15:17 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Shokre O'Corwi wrote:
*snip*


/sarcasm mode on

If only every single other game did not come with their ability to play their own music scores.

Oh wait, they do.


Removing the Jukebox also had the nasty side effect as well: you can't run 4-5 clients without getting crazy with the concurrent music cacophony so you have to manually turn on and off the music every gaming session... and it won't persist so the next session you have to do it again!


this is a bigger problem in my opinion, as much as i like the jukebox, the feature that came in it's place is not that bad, however with the jukebox they removed ALL music related settings
with efficiency in mind, i liked the option to STOP the music when i was not listening to it, having it play on at volume 0% wastes cpu time, which CAN matter on crappy computers, like an old laptop i have around

also, using external apps for music, alt-tabbing out risks a crash, running in window mode breaks immersion

of course it dosn't make sense to waste coding time on a feature almost noone uses,
but how much was it used really?
and how much coding time did it take to maintain?
i'm not a programmer, but to be honest, making the play-pause-stop-next_song buttons not break?
how much coding time did that consume?

not being sarcastic btw, i'm actually curious to find out
Octoven
Stellar Production
#202 - 2012-12-17 22:42:16 UTC
I want to know why we as a community must choose between revamping the jukebox or focusing on playable features. It is obviously that you, the developers, have spent time and attention into this new music system. Why could that time not have been utilized instead on refining the already existing jukebox instead of creating something new entirely?
Dawne Xi
3D Salvage and Acquisitions
#203 - 2012-12-18 04:24:02 UTC
There are better media players out there, no need to have a jukebox for the reasons the Dev's have said they got rid of it in the first place.
Balder Verdandi
Wormhole Sterilization Crew
#204 - 2012-12-18 09:27:58 UTC
Dawne Xi wrote:
There are better media players out there, no need to have a jukebox for the reasons the Dev's have said they got rid of it in the first place.



Until you can't get the music to "stop" playing ......

Long live the failure of "Unified Inventory"!

POS fix dated back to 2006!
DarkestHeart
ItsMeCorp
#205 - 2012-12-18 09:30:19 UTC
Dawne Xi wrote:
There are better media players out there, no need to have a jukebox for the reasons the Dev's have said they got rid of it in the first place.


On page 10 I posted a good number of reasons we should have it back.

On the first page I listed a number of reasons we should have it back.

All through this thread people have listed good reasons to have it back.
Hemi DarkStar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#206 - 2012-12-18 11:32:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Hemi DarkStar
/ signed

And I think EVE will be around for a while...so those changes to the game that would get "replaced" by developing a better jukebox would come eventually anyway.(besides that...EVE is one of the most fine-tuned mmo experiences I ever had. Taking some time to develop other things wouldnt be a bad idea.-> And good for devs to take their mind somewere else, so they can return with fresh ideas that lead to an even better game experience! I can wait for a reskin of some ship Im never going to fly anyway, lol)

I loved the fact you can set the mood ingame. An external player just isnt the same thing. I miss the jukebox very much, and so does the rest of our corp. (Just because we don't post here every day, doesn't mean we could care less. Remember...only a small percentage of players of any game actually uses forums. And when they do, its usually always for negative comments. )

Specially when you enter combat, the custom music of the jukebox stops and plays the battle music. A simple thing you might think, but allot of mmo's can't seem to grasp that functionality. And I loved that about EVE's jukebox. Before the update I had a massive lib, full of EVE-esk music. Brilliant dark-ambient music. It's gathering Dust now(see what I did there?). I tried using external music players, but its just not the same thing and takes you out of the game. And my computer doesnt like it for some reason.

If it doesn't happen, then I would suggest adding more songs. LastFM has some fantastic Dark Ambient artists that you can use for the game if only you would contact them and ask. They prob give you the music rights to use it.

eg :

http://www.last.fm/music/Deepspace
DarkestHeart
ItsMeCorp
#207 - 2012-12-18 15:48:44 UTC
Hemi DarkStar wrote:


I loved the fact you can set the mood ingame. An external player just isnt the same thing. I miss the jukebox very much, and so does the rest of our corp.


Ask them to sign this thread if they support the cause and ideas being posted - more signatures = higher possibility of something being done!
Andrei Calidar
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#208 - 2012-12-18 17:57:20 UTC
I support this petition.
Bring back the Jukebox!
androch
LitlCorp
#209 - 2012-12-18 20:09:35 UTC
Manssell wrote:
As a Mac player all I can say is *@^# NO!

All this crying to bring that awful thing back would be amusing except I'm almost afraid you'd convince CCP to do it. Mac players didn't have a working jukebox for years. I didn't even know that the songs in Eve had endings until early this year when they finally got the jukebox to play most of them completely. We never could import our own music without crashing the game and now I hear all the cries to waste developer time on a feature that won't work on our computers anyway so a few people won't have to deal with a few minor audio quirks or use a media player. I say rubbish to that!




so stop wasting developer time begging them to make things work on a piece of crap computer that only like .01% of the eve community plays on dump the mac get a pc
CCP Eterne
C C P
C C P Alliance
#210 - 2012-12-19 09:42:13 UTC
I have removed a rant from this thread. Ranting is never good, folks.

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zxsteel
#211 - 2012-12-19 09:52:43 UTC
I have to admit, I miss my jukebox ShockedStraight
Tragot Gomndor
Three Sword Inc
#212 - 2012-12-19 10:32:29 UTC
SIGNED

i like the idea of the dynamic music, but if you rarly leave one sec-zone you will always hear the same songs... there should be both, dynamic and jukebox... i should decide what i am listening to...

NONONONONONO TO CAPS IN HIGHSEC NO
Keko Khaan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#213 - 2012-12-19 10:53:37 UTC
Manssell wrote:
As a Mac player all I can say is *@^# NO!

All this crying to bring that awful thing back would be amusing except I'm almost afraid you'd convince CCP to do it. Mac players didn't have a working jukebox for years. I didn't even know that the songs in Eve had endings until early this year when they finally got the jukebox to play most of them completely. We never could import our own music without crashing the game and now I hear all the cries to waste developer time on a feature that won't work on our computers anyway so a few people won't have to deal with a few minor audio quirks or use a media player. I say rubbish to that!


Thats what u get for using that apple crap for gaming.. Obviously macs are not made for gaming and obviously games are not made for mac.. Buy pc if u wanna play games. Buy mac if u wanna do modeling, rendering, animations and stuff..
Matthew97
#214 - 2012-12-19 11:05:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Matthew97
Signed

Gimme nao or forever be subject to grumpy cat posts!


Keko Khaan wrote:
Manssell wrote:
As a Mac player all I can say is *@^# NO!

All this crying to bring that awful thing back would be amusing except I'm almost afraid you'd convince CCP to do it. Mac players didn't have a working jukebox for years. I didn't even know that the songs in Eve had endings until early this year when they finally got the jukebox to play most of them completely. We never could import our own music without crashing the game and now I hear all the cries to waste developer time on a feature that won't work on our computers anyway so a few people won't have to deal with a few minor audio quirks or use a media player. I say rubbish to that!


Thats what u get for using that apple crap for gaming.. Obviously macs are not made for gaming and obviously games are not made for mac.. Buy pc if u wanna play games. Buy mac if u wanna do modeling, rendering, animations and stuff..





^Also this.
DarkestHeart
ItsMeCorp
#215 - 2012-12-19 13:09:01 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
I have removed a rant from this thread. Ranting is never good, folks.


Thank you, that post was just dumbing down the other decent ideas/proposals that have been made in this thread.

Petition now at 88.
Cat Steele
Delphia Trust
#216 - 2012-12-20 01:12:14 UTC
I sort of miss the jukebox, If I could just see the title of the song playing and have a button to skip to the next track I think that is all I would really need. I don't think it is absolutely vital, you can still listen to the music.
Wu Jiaqiu
#217 - 2012-12-20 01:18:09 UTC
I miss the jukebox. Please put it back. I do actually listen to the music.
androch
LitlCorp
#218 - 2012-12-20 17:02:37 UTC
bring it back
Akavire
Doomheim
#219 - 2012-12-20 19:25:45 UTC
I miss being able to set the mood I want.
bring back the jukebox already !!
Johnson Oramara
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#220 - 2012-12-20 22:39:38 UTC
Yeah, i'm missing it too so signed.