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Jukebox Petition - Bring it back!

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DarkestHeart
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-12-04 21:24:01 UTC  |  Edited by: DarkestHeart
Hi guys,

I've played the game for something like 8 years, before the music was revamped to the style it was before the JB was taken away. Apart from being slightly biased and actually enjoying the music in EvE when in the mood, which was quite often, there are some valid points I want to make and why it should be brought back.
New Music Style
I dont like this. I dont like how the music changes depending on my location, nor how many people have been killed in that system. It is clever I cannot deny, but the music I hear does not suit the mood I am in, nor does it, in my opinion sound that good. I feel that, so far, this noise falls under sound-effects more than music. I've turned it off for now, as I did in the test server clients since the JB was removed.
Removal of access
I'm pro choice, in EvE. I want, and love, the ability to make my own path and do what I want in EvE. I've now had something taken away from me in this game that I enjoyed. There is no gain in this, from a user perspective, I have gained nothing that adds to the experience, only detracts.
The above idea is clever and good, but I dont understand why the entire jukebox had to be taken away. It may be outdated but then that should be resolved, not taking the function out. I want to choose what music I listen to when I want to listen to it, I dont want the game to decide for me. It's lead to me disabling the sound effects of the game, which is a shame as the new sound effects are good.
Limiting Innovation
Alright thats a bit dramatic but its true. EvE is about an immersive experience that with the sound effects, visual effects and music can really suck you in and gets people hooked. I really think that the music is a massive feature of this. It auto plays when you first install the client. New members will hear it and associate EvE with it. It adds to the effect, now as it did when I first started to play. I, and many others, looked forward to the day when we would hear that the music was being revamped again, new tracks, newer mixes, but this...is not the kind of innovation we were hoping for. What has been taken is the easy route - why fix something when you can just remove the issue altogether?

TL;DR - The new music features are good but you dont need to take away the ability to select music as we want CCP. Make it so that when the JB isnt played, the auto-select feature works. The music in EvE was good, and I want to listen to the tracks when I choose, not when the client chooses for me. I've long been an advocate that the sound effects in the game factor into the enjoyment, and that they help with gameplay. I dont like the new 'music', and the plain sound effects are annoying to the point where I just dont have sound anymore. In my eyes losing an aspect like that is a massive blow to the effort put into the game to draw you in and enjoy it. I'm not alone.

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#2 - 2012-12-04 21:37:26 UTC
Signed !

Add more stuff don't remoove extras from the game . Have to say i used this player ever since i started in 2008 ingame music added atmosphere to the game wihtout it theres simply no game music ! And no i don't want to use soundclould working in the background !
Jarrot Squoth
Jarrot Squoth Corporation
#3 - 2012-12-04 21:51:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarrot Squoth
Hello guys!

I think same. I used Jukebox from beginning of my adventure with Eve. And it was great to hear my own music while playing game.
Of cource it was not too bad idea that sometimes on some speciall misions Eve played its own music , but now i hear only some boring music with some F/X. Why Jukebox has been removed from game without reason ? Now we have no choice ...
Must listen some noises.... Its interesting idea to add sound changed depend situation , but everybody should have choice to swith
back to previous sound schematic.

Dont remove good code from game ! I not think so that it was more that few MB of Data&Code. I think that it was much less.

I hope that they will put back this nice feature as christmas gift ;)


Regards
Kaizoe Ocshtau
Hellish Inc
#4 - 2012-12-04 22:05:30 UTC
Use an external music player.
If you want to have control over the EVE music played, use this http://soundcloud.com/ccpgames/sets/eve-online-in-game-tracks/
DarkestHeart
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-12-04 22:13:11 UTC
Kaizoe Ocshtau wrote:
Use an external music player.
If you want to have control over the EVE music played, use this http://soundcloud.com/ccpgames/sets/eve-online-in-game-tracks/


Problem being that this is not the solution we are looking for.

I should not be expected to have to load up another application to re-gain functionality that was included in EvE until this morning. Many players run clients on computers that have limited resources and cannot, and should not be expected to use up resources on another memory hungry application in order to enjoy what they paid for.

The music may be a small part of the game but its a part we pay for and want to retain - asking CCP to go back on the changes they have made is not a solution for any party, but simply allowing players to regain control over the JukeBox again is a solution.

At least that way CCP can be innovative with the sound effects and methods they want to integrate into the game whilst players regain the choices that made the game so appealing in the first place.
Eperor
Machiavellian Empire
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#6 - 2012-12-04 22:19:19 UTC
Yeah bring back pls jukebox and add more songs in it
Kiran
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-12-04 22:38:13 UTC
I had my own play lists that I use to listen to while mining or ratting solo as sometimes I am at home during the day due to shift patterns.

I would like to have the option to keep it .
Langbaobao
Tr0pa de elite.
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2012-12-04 23:04:57 UTC
I'll +1 this petition as well.
John Theller
DSI Enterprise
#9 - 2012-12-04 23:05:07 UTC
I agree a 100% with you! since i started playing this game, i listened to songs and found that i like ''Below the asteroids'' when i was mining and ''red glowing dust'' when i was feeling like alone in space...it was a good feeling

But now all this is taken away from me, and i agree that it take away the immersion of the game

This is the only post i did on the forum, so i sign up for that petition, as i really want that jukebox back

''I should not be expected to have to load up another application to re-gain functionality that was included in EvE'' Totally agree

so, yea bring it back plz! :(
Arcturia Kunert
Jarrot Squoth Corporation
#10 - 2012-12-04 23:35:17 UTC
HI
It is so unfair we pay for EvE and we expect it to have everything it was great on the beginning until I heard the horrible boaring musicWhat? so I thought I will put my own play list on but when I searched for the jukebox I just couldn't find it so I was just there thinking could it be possible for the EVE people to delete the jukeboxRoll now all I hear is meeoww miiiimiiii ,mooooooo,nnnnnnnnnuuuuuu.sssssccccrrrruuuuuueeeee them






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PLEASE BRING THE JUKEBOX BACK ,PLZ Lol
Kagumichan
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-12-05 00:09:05 UTC
Signed!

Loved having the jukebox function (something eve offered that no other mmo did by default) to play my own music when doing other things, and having it auto-switch to the awesome Eve electronic rock music when going into missions. Now it's either put up with the boring music until the rock kicks in at an acceleration gate, or turn it off and run media player in the background and pray to the Gods of good music that the shuffle option doesn't keep playing the more boring tunes in a soundtrack.
poof312
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-12-05 00:46:31 UTC
Just noticed that my jukebox was missing, so I came to make a thread. Glad to see there's one already here.

+1, bring back the jukebox. I liked the functionality a lot. Plus when I wanted to listen to EVE music I could set a play order more to my liking.
Eight Two
SWIFT Inc.
#13 - 2012-12-05 07:10:43 UTC
Signed.

The few good tracks the eve soundtrack had are burried in the rest of the - sorry - trash that I wouldn't even want to listen to during a 10 second elevator ride.

Jukebox let us have OUR music for OUR mood. Bring it back. Seriously, using an application in the background is not an option when the function was already in the game.
Anuma Alish
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2012-12-05 07:48:20 UTC
Yes, bring back Jukebox!
Momoyo
Rivinshield Trading Inc.
#15 - 2012-12-05 13:51:18 UTC
Good luck though cant say I miss it. When I started playing I thought it was cool but when I tried to use it it never worked so I abandoned it.
DarkestHeart
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-12-05 14:31:49 UTC
Lets raise awareness people, tell your corp/alliance mates, spread the word - CCP will not pay attention to us unless we get a decent number of posts.

Which kinda shows whats wrong with this situation as we actually pay for this game.
Eraza
Fuzzyness Enterprizes
#17 - 2012-12-05 14:32:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Eraza
was going to make a thread like this, glad someone beat me to it

i use the jukebox a lot, it's got a few songs i love, but i cant stand most of the songs

the jukebox was perfect as it was, it did not need fixing

i dont want a new external way to manage the music, and i dont want music selected for me

i will be keeping music volume at 0% untill i get to pick songs manually again

edit: even if i liked the new feature, this means no easily accessible volume bar, which is what i used the jukebox for the most
DarkestHeart
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-12-05 19:16:43 UTC
Just a small update.

Today I thought I would bring sound back and just check it out again to be fair.

Every time, every time I jumped a system the music track changed.

I flew 32 jumps in a pod. Every-single-jump I made, I listened to about 15-20 seconds of a song and then it changed again.

That, CCP, really does not showcase the good work you have put into the game. I mean seriously, thats shoddy coding and imlementation of what, in theory, is a good idea.

Please, please change it, its embarrasing as a player. Once again, sound is off.
Melke Smooth
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-12-05 19:19:58 UTC
Don't bring it back. It's a novel idea but also an unneeded burden for the developers to worry about. These days, computers are more than capable of using an external player and Eve at the same time.

The jukebox used to crash the game in linux back in the day so we had to rename the jukebox folder anyhow. I wish it was removed way back then.

Use Winamp and learn the hot keys or if you have a media keyboard, change track that way.
Zak Shimaya
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-12-05 19:21:42 UTC
I second the motion. Bring back the jukebox CCP.
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