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i know u doing wery hard job keeping eve atractive and all that...butt,i'm wery wery disapointed with your desision on shortin missile range almost by 50%..i think-from my point of wiew-u guys left option that gunnery can still able to snipe from distance and with missiles u need to get in close range.that is-is not ok...so my question is if by any chance u will do somthing about that..since i'm a tengu pilot the range from 106km efective hit now i'm at 66km with t2 missiles..what basicly sucks..sinc afterall it is a t3 ship..im fine with that on t1 sips,baut having sam range on t1 & t3 ship is not ok..
i honestly hope u understand my disapointment,and also hoping that u will do somthiing about that..

Flagging alarms at the frequency of a dental drill have to go. Seriously annoying.

So it's ok then?
As paying customers, we failed to spend our free time reading and interpreting devblogs and therefore it's our fault if we are dissatisfied with the additions, changes to, and removal of content resulting from 'Retribution'.

In order to actually participate, we are required to spend our free time -not to mention our storage- installing and spending time on Test Server and reading all devblogs. This feedback thread we are invited to participate in serves no purpose, because the only meaningful feedback is provided pre-patch?

Sorry if I'm being antagonistic.

You are simply, and very clearly, summing up the situation and that's useful for folks coming here to find 60+ pages of feedback; much of it calling repeatedly for well reasoned changes to the new content.

Your summary does sound a bit fatalistic; there is no hope; the deed is done.
Your explanation for why Jukebox was removed sounds a bit like a justification. We all understand that change is desirable and sometimes necessary. What many paying clients of CCP are calling for is not justification, but restoration of well liked functionality.

If change to the legacy Jukebox code was required, implementation of a similar feature could have been part of the plan. Feedback from this thread suggests that would have been a welcome thing within the community.

An old rule of thumb standard within customer service training for several industries is that 'a complaint given by one individual about a product or service is most often representative of the same complaint withheld by many'; and so the value of feedback.

I liked your message but I just have to also quote the part that seems impossible to explain to the current generation of gamers.
Playing EvE just because... it's an universe where to cut a little corner to detach from the daily routine, the daily fatigues.

All those who can recognize these names: "James Clark, Isaac Asimov, Ray Bradbury, Nigel Kneale (omitting many others)" are born for EvE, EvE is their thing.

EvE is also logging in wearing 3D googles, undocking in one of those systems where you have close planets / moons and station and stare at the resulting scenery plus your ship for 30 minutes, your mind taking off and transporting you in distant worlds.

EvE is so much, so beyond the mere "ISK inflation", "suicide gank lawl".

How to convey these things, these feelings, these memories to those who only see EvE for the trolling, the e-peen, the docking games and point at you like YOU are playing the WRONG game.

Decided to play Retribution for about a week before providing feedback if at all.
Really do not like the eve forums or better the way they are maintained inconsistently.

I do love the game and appreciate the effort and lengths CCP goes to, to try and have a community that like to keep putting in content. The level of play is just awesome, which is just as much due to the community as it is to CCP and its developers.

I love retribution!

If there is a thing i do not understand, its the unscannable cargohold on my viator...

....."please watch as I warp away from the gate much more safely now that my cargohold in unscannable"....
But this is not Retribution related.

Why do I love Retribution.....well, look at this thread.....

Look at many of those null bears hiding behind alts acting as a industrial/mining highsec resident stating they are now in much more danger...
hereby trying to manipulate the beleive system of potential followers, less informed people and or younger players.

This sentence alone (not retribution related perse) shows why i love this game and its depth.....but what is said in the sentence, I do enjoy the fact those null pilots seem to feel like needing to hide behind alts trying to alter the beleive system.

Good to see them "be scared" a bit more.....risk reward completely back in full....

Thats how I read many of those posts, not all.
Some are from followers whome beleive systems have just been altered by entities they "look up" to or those they want themselves mirrored to.

There might be a few that just didnt inform themselves....*cough*..

I would like the pizza's to be sizeable and be able to positon the scrolling damage stats where I want them to be.....other than that, it enhances my gameplay. I think this is a matter of personal taste, one could never do right for everyone. Therefor I think such features should be highly customizable, it should be much more granular to the player and a player should be able, imo, to completely setup the UI as one wants.....


As for the AI in missions.....I really really like it.....but could be better imo
Yes, first time out, I did loose all my drones, and also almost lost a 1,3 B CNR....
However, i finally felt something while doing a mission...

After adapting and revamping the fit, i did not loose any drones anymore and the mission became "just as easy" as before.
So I am not able to see the complain of many about killed/instapopped drones, it is rather easy to make sure your drones will not be popped. I have found it to be about revising the way you run the mission.

I said just as easy, which is true for me anyway, but there is more to watch for and more diversity in what you need to do to complete the mission. So, it did become somewhat more "engaging" for a few runs.

I think it would be possible to make AI even better if the AI contained a years worth (for example) of "refined" "combat logs" or rather...
has its own database with current combat tactics being employed against certain types of combat.
By refreshing the database with fresh data continually and dropping everything beyond a certain age the AI evolves as players or content does.

And I do mean this as:

Take a combat log between two players from a wide range of players and player ages, analyse the counters and attacks.
There is always a certain level of....if one does this, the other does that....
This changes over time as mechanics get adjusted.

By putting the common counters and attacks into records, AI could pick the right attack or counter for everything you do and actually evolves as the game does and or players....since data is refreshed continually

All in all......I think Retribution is a really great step forward at many levels....

Thanks!!

So it's been a week, and no word on the "tracking disruption issue" other than that "we're looking at it".

What I'd like to know: does CCP intend to fix the permadisruption from rats, or should I start training for missiles and ditch all my turret based pve boats?

Are you still here banging on about the bounty system? FFS get either unsub or get on with your life.

It's a non issue. The bounty system needed fixing and this is as good a fix than i could think of. CCP are not about to completely undo all the work they have put into this.

So what do you exactly do you want from CCP now? That they tell you something you don't want to hear just so you can ***** and moan more?!

Okay, first I have not read all of the posts. Second, complaining is a legitimate form of feedback.

Changes to NPC rats and drone boats.

No, the drones do not take more than their fair share of the aggro. Yes, you need to control the aggro and take out the NPC's that pose the most danger to your drones.

But, when the drones do take aggro they die very fast. So, one of three solutions in my little mind.

1) Have the drones take more damage before they go pop, so they have time to be recalled into the drone bay.

2) Accept the fact that drones will die a lot, but give drone boats much larger drone bays to hold all of the extras that will be needed. Heavies die fast because they are slower than mud flowing up hill in January. (Northern hemisphere)

3) Give drone boats a big speed boost so that they can be close to their drones and pull them in when needed. Not the best solution but I liked the idea of three solutions.

Just my depreciated two cents.

It's funny how capsuleers are being directed to this thread from the other forum sections so the "devs are sure to see it" here. Only Dev to post anything here in the past couple of days was Punkturis responding to people about devs not posting. Really is starting to look like the devs don't want feedback at all with their lack of response to some of the questions being asked. Kind of disheartening really.

Last time they did that things turned real ugly...

Lets hope they learned from that point.