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Still dont see any "Klang" or Pizza removal

How are you defining who is innocent? Is an alliance leader that's never fired a shot but orders thousands of players to go out and kill others innocent? How about the industrialist that builds guns? The definition of innocence is one that I don't want to tie to a single mechanic. You people decide who you think are innocent and who you think are not.

•We have now forbidden placing bounty on Developer & ISD Corporations and Alliances.

It was not a feature, CCP did not design the can flip mechanics just you you could play fight with your bro's. It was there to try and protect people jet can mining a little because [mining] is bad enough as it is not loan having to warp to a station every 9mins.

As Ptraci has pointed out there is a FEATURE you could use and be 100% safe (test server was not designed for play fighting with your bro's) or just go to an empty 0.0 system (check the map 85% of all 0.0 is empty) and you can PLAY to your harts content.


Or what you will quit? Please do it sooner rather than later.

The real issue is the hundreds of billions worth of isk just sitting there as frozen cash for the sake of profit maximizing by ccp. Imagine you put 100m on someones head and they fly around in a regular cruiser... How many times would they have to be killed for that pool to dry up? the real answer is "it will never dry up" it's just good jucy isk sitting there for nothing. CCP made a big pool of "unavailable" money so the isk making scheme became even harder. i had a friend who got 400m stolen from corp wallet by an untrustworthy person... In an attempt to get back some of the money or to make it hard for that person to play freely she put a 100m bounty on his head. What have happened since? totally "NOTHING"... so that's 500m isk now...

Conclusion: THE WORST PATCH EVER TO BE RELEASED IN EVE.

Can't be emphasized enough.

I like the new expansion, only note i have are sounds while ratting, warping and using gates. There are some sounds that shouldnt be there i think.
Other then that its great, i did had an issue with targetting camera but that was quickly solved with the settings ( the window above ur overview settings) there u can turn it off since i see more people having that issue.

Thumbs up for CCP

Once again, just going to reiterate how much more difficult the new targeting UI is for me to use.

I didn't like it from the start, I rageposted about it, and now I've gone and used it for ~2 days in active combat situations flying t1 cruisers (which are great btw, nice job), and I still don't like it.

My issue is that number one, it's very difficult to see at a glance how much hp they are missing. particularly the shield and hull bars becuase there is very little contrast between that bar and whatever you are looking at on screen. I.e. if you're looking at the sun, it's harder to tell. The armor bar is ~ok~ because it has bars of white around it, but overall it's significantly harder to see how much damage somebody has at a quick glance than the old interface.

This is further compounded by the fact that the damage appears in a circle. I've said this before and I'll said it again--humans read in straight lines, not in a circle. When my eyes see the point between the white and the red, I first try to look for a horizontal bar, not a circular bar. It's simply much more difficult to do a quick check on how much damage they have taken--this is especially annoying and relevant when they are active tanking. This is already difficult for just looking at one client, but we all know that many people run more than one at once--and I personally regularly run 3 clients in combat situations all at the same time and being able to alt-tab quickly through them and gather quick information is a must. On that note, I've also noticed the damage seems to lag sometimes on the new targeting ui--not accurately showing how much damage they have taken--sometimes lagging out for a couple of seconds.

My other main issue with the UI aside from the fact that it is less readable than the old UI is that it is also bigger. It takes up a significant amount of room and in a game like eve where I need to have my chat window, my local window, my d-scan, my overview, my fleet window, my drone window, my watchlist, and my hud all setup on the screen, this increase in space taken is not helpful. It is most noticeable when doing targeting ui intensive activities like salvaging in a noctis.

CCP, it is extremely frustrating for me to use the new UI. I will grant that yes, it looks cooler, but in function it is worse than the old UI. It probably works fine for people that don't fight in combat situations where they have to manage ranges on multiple enemy ships, watch multiple ewar situations while taking quick glances at the targeting icon to see damage, but for people that do this, it is simply subpar.

Please don't let your pride of your new system get the most of you, please give us an option to use the old one, it's frustrating to login to the game, excited to play and then have my excitement slowly wane as I keep having to double check and triple check my targeting icons because I couldn't manage to see the damage or the shiptype (as noted in other people's posts, the ship icon is harder to see as well).

I would really appreciate a CCP response on this.

Does ANYONE at CCP playtest any of these alleged 'upgrades'? ..... It seems too many changes are made to make things look 'cool', as opposed to actually being an improvement to game play.