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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#421 - 2012-12-05 03:42:00 UTC
Nene Ryuseika wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Nene Ryuseika wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
A lot of you just seem to be looking for something to complain about, like some self-fulfilling prophecy after just EXPECTING every patch to be bad. It's just negativity. If you can't make the Algos work, then you fail at EVE.



I'll try that right after you fit up a kickass Kronos..


Why are you relying on what I can do? Why does what you try have to depend on what I'm capable of? If you can't be capable on your own merits, than log off and go away, but complaining that all the new free stuff sucks won't solve anything, and if you don't like it, that's entirely your problem. If you have legitimate concerns with the game, like faults with the salvage drones and some buggy sounds, then by all means let us know. But "this patch sucks" doesn't fly if you can't be more specific and your only problem is with the new free ships.



oy vey, I just said they aimed at newer players

I spose if I can't make an Ibis work I should quit eve too ?


Yep. Considering you can't manage a discussion on the forums without bountying someone that disagrees with you. Definitely quit. It's easy enough for my corp alts to claim the majority of that bounty you just placed in me pretty quickly without a problem or any major loss to myself. So waste some more money why don't you.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Nene Ryuseika
The Ryuseika Group
#422 - 2012-12-05 03:43:20 UTC
Jerick Ludhowe wrote:


My Ishtar is farming serpentis anoms and sites just as well as it did pre patch. I've not really seen any significant agro switching that has been unmanageable. These are high end anoms, and the site was a Serpentis Military Complex so I'm most certainly not just doing EZ mode content. I think this point I've quoted of yours is more of a L2P issue on your partRoll


I agree, even tho I lost my first fighter EVER today cuz of the AI .... once I kept them all in rep range I was all good

I think the same strategy will work good on my domi with a repper .. at least for the heavys - sentries I could imagine are now out of the question w/o range advantage tho

It might be nice if there was a locking time bonus to your own drones to take care of them


Overall I think the AI improvments were needed and a plus - the only people i feel sorry for are nullsec miners who have rats to worry about all over again.. oh wait, there are no nullsec miners ^^
Contessa Kereen
BrainBox
Blades of Grass
#423 - 2012-12-05 03:43:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Contessa Kereen
Steijn wrote:


2 - the target lock buzz is annoying as hell, as a sparkie its a sound that to me means something is shorting out and is not the kind of sound i would want to hear coming from a PC as you dont know if its in game or an electrical fault.



Yep, I think the sound is strange and annoying too. Like a PC fault !

I think the problem is not all about the sound it self, but I think the sound look to be a little bit higher then the overall "UI sound level" !!?!
Maibe this sound level is set on "world level" !???

On my sound config, the "UI sound level" is always one of the lower, .... so it can be a easy fix :: Just move the "sparkie buzz sound" IN the "UI sound level" class AND THE JOB IS DONE !

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For all the rest GREAT JOB !!!
Big smile
Nene Ryuseika
The Ryuseika Group
#424 - 2012-12-05 03:46:28 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:


Yep. Considering you can't manage a discussion on the forums without bountying someone that disagrees with you. Definitely quit. It's easy enough for my corp alts to claim the majority of that bounty you just placed in me pretty quickly without a problem or any major loss to myself. So waste some more money why don't you.


Ain't the whole point of the new bounty system is it can't be cheaped or abused like that?

Lets put it to the test why don't we :) Gotta be some new feature I take pleasure in right?
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#425 - 2012-12-05 03:48:48 UTC
Amazing patch all aroundAttention

Love the little touches too like changes in brackets. Smile

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#426 - 2012-12-05 03:50:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Nene Ryuseika wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:


Yep. Considering you can't manage a discussion on the forums without bountying someone that disagrees with you. Definitely quit. It's easy enough for my corp alts to claim the majority of that bounty you just placed in me pretty quickly without a problem or any major loss to myself. So waste some more money why don't you.


Ain't the whole point of the new bounty system is it can't be cheaped or abused like that?

Lets put it to the test why don't we :) Gotta be some new feature I take pleasure in right?


Why should all the pleasure be reserved for you? I take a fair bit in the thought that you were mad enough to think me worth half a billion. Blink

EDIT: Someone actually just went after me and your silly bounty in highsec and tried to scram my shield-tanked venture - i got away, but they got concorded. you think there's something wrong with the bounty system, i say there's something wrong with people that can't read and still can't grasp the fact that bounties =/= kill rights.

so i'll be fine. and you wasted half a billion isk.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
hired gunman
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#427 - 2012-12-05 04:00:33 UTC
I got 2 complaints sorry

1) The new damage Notification
a. Cant enable or disable as far as I can see
b. I cant move the Notification window to the left half of the screen every time a try it throws it to the right

2)The AI is cool I kinda like it but Fighters being primary target number one and AI being obsessed with fighters is not good.
a. I understand that maybe you intended it and I will be looking for other ways
b. ccp said drones will not hate drones nearly as much as sleepers BS the size of drones matter lights are the least cared about.
Chiblot
DarkStar Technologies
#428 - 2012-12-05 04:07:46 UTC
Most of the changes are great, especially the ship balancing. There are a few things that I think should either be slightly reverted or just changed all together.


Items that need to be changed in some way:

  • NPC AI needs to be slightly less aggressive towards drones, as it stands right now only sentries are useful because all other drones need to be recalled before they have any real effect.
  • In regards to the bounty system I believe placing a bounty should be reverted back to people with a security status below 0.0, to me it seems silly that you can place a bounty on someone who has never willingly engaged in pvp.
  • In my opinion the new targeting UI is very difficult to read. The easy fix in my mind would be to make the shield/armor/hull bars bigger than they are now.


The only major thing that needs to be fixed in my mind is salvage drones. I'm not sure if they work as intended or they are currently broken but as of now they seem pretty useless.
Deditri
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#429 - 2012-12-05 04:10:30 UTC
Too bad the ORE frigate, which is an ORE MINING Vessel , which mines, and does mining...can not be docked in the rorqual.

Normally, the Rorqual can only hold transport ships, mining barges, and exhumers in the ship maint. bay....I guess a mining frigate doesn't qualify as a mining vessel worthy of fitting into a Mining Capital ship.

'mining' word count : 7
Jake Centauri
Doomheim
#430 - 2012-12-05 04:13:20 UTC
- People in NPC corps should not be allowed to place bounties.

- Bounties should decay over time, or expire after a length of time.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#431 - 2012-12-05 04:17:40 UTC
Jake Centauri wrote:
- People in NPC corps should not be allowed to place bounties.

- Bounties should decay over time, or expire after a length of time.


You had someone put a bounty on you, didn't you?

lulz

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#432 - 2012-12-05 04:20:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Korinne
1000% range buff on the t1 support cruisers and 100% logi drone effectiveness?! Da **** CCP, da ****, are you high?!?! A buff was needed but you just used the nuclear option giving them insane buffs at level 1.
Sibius Aidon
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#433 - 2012-12-05 04:23:44 UTC
Jukebox needs to come back. MP3 players are still cool and hip (I have 3, after all...my computer, and two other phones). Pretty much the message I hear when reading the blog from the sound team is...hear our music, or die. I don't want to hear EVE music. I'm not a fan of it and there are only very few songs that I like from the EVE playlist. Also, hitting alt+tab is annoying, because it takes 10 seconds for EVE to get past the black screen. Also opens the chance to cause a crash. The jukebox was easy and simple (although I think it could have used a search function). I was actually hoping that in Retribution the Jukebox would be improved, not removed.

I know xfire allows an overlay that you can manipulate in-game but that causes the game to be unstable. I'm highly disappointed in the fact that the Jukebox is gone.

Now, as to the positive feedback. I do like the new added ships. I feel that a gap has been filled by the addition of the Corax and the new mining frigate. I have mixed feelings about rebalancing, but, that's only small.
Michael Kashada
Namaste Foundation Corporation
#434 - 2012-12-05 04:33:20 UTC
Crimewatch

I am out mining quite a bit and doing the standard setup with Sentry drones running.
I had several Guristas move in on me and the drones attacked once their trigger hit.

They killed the Guiristas but I got flagged with a yellow crime tag???!!!!!! Really? So I get flagged for killing a red that locked on me? That should be reconsidered.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#435 - 2012-12-05 04:38:09 UTC
Michael Kashada wrote:
Crimewatch

I am out mining quite a bit and doing the standard setup with Sentry drones running.
I had several Guristas move in on me and the drones attacked once their trigger hit.

They killed the Guiristas but I got flagged with a yellow crime tag???!!!!!! Really? So I get flagged for killing a red that locked on me? That should be reconsidered.


Did you read the tag? You should read the tag. It's not a criminal tag. Seriously, read the tag.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
bowlofmilk
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#436 - 2012-12-05 04:48:43 UTC
Please let us turn the beep beep beep beep off
Haifisch Zahne
Hraka Manufacture GmbH
#437 - 2012-12-05 04:52:15 UTC
Well, we got the brand-new, gee-wiz feature that we all have been waiting: the separable, moveable, and pinnable damage notification window. *finger twirl unenthusiastically*

I can't read anything, it "wizzes" by so fast. (I guess that is why it is a gee-wiz feature?)

And, has anyone read the new hit notifications? "Penetrates" (nice word choice), "Smashes", "Hits", "Grazes", and "Glances off". (And, heavens knows what others).

I guess the devs at CCP have been reading up on their comics. However, they have forgotten: "Bang!" and "Pow!"

(Or, was this all meant to appeal to the new Eve kiddies that are coming in flocks to this new easy to play game?)
Commander A9
Aurora University
#438 - 2012-12-05 04:56:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander A9
I'll repeat what I said on Test Server.

You can still place a bounty on yourself! And I really don't think that's by design. Makes no sense to me to put your own money on yourself to make yourself wanted or a target.

I really miss the old Jukebox. I can't control my music anymore. I love John Hallur, but I don't want to listen to him all the time. And I think I should dictate what I listen to when I want to listen to it. Maybe I want to play "Home At Last" or "Green Nebulae" when I get to my home system. OR maybe I want to play the "Theme From Jita" when I'm actually in Jita, or "Close To A Holy Place" when I'm in Amarr.

Now, I can't and I'm not happy about it...at all...

And I don't like the fact that scroll arrows in chat windows have been removed. I'm forced to use the slider bar to move up one damn line. But with the scroll bar as it is, I miss the one line I'm looking for and end up jumping half the window...

Recommendations:

-enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters)

-add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot)

-STOP NERFING EVERYTHING!

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KevinFlynnn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#439 - 2012-12-05 04:57:22 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
robbyx wrote:
New mega skin is horrible, paint it "caldari colours" and it could easily pass as a caldari ship....gone are the voluptuous curves that was the hallmark of the megathron.

Jukebox seems to have disappeared, asked a couple of corpies who also said that couldnt find it....although i did read the patch notes i may have missed if is a known issue.


The Jukebox was removed as per this blog.



This is just terrible, terrible news. About as much fail as unified inventory's launch.
KevinFlynnn
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#440 - 2012-12-05 04:59:37 UTC
Sibius Aidon wrote:
Jukebox needs to come back. MP3 players are still cool and hip (I have 3, after all...my computer, and two other phones). Pretty much the message I hear when reading the blog from the sound team is...hear our music, or die. I don't want to hear EVE music. I'm not a fan of it and there are only very few songs that I like from the EVE playlist. Also, hitting alt+tab is annoying, because it takes 10 seconds for EVE to get past the black screen. Also opens the chance to cause a crash. The jukebox was easy and simple (although I think it could have used a search function). I was actually hoping that in Retribution the Jukebox would be improved, not removed.

I know xfire allows an overlay that you can manipulate in-game but that causes the game to be unstable. I'm highly disappointed in the fact that the Jukebox is gone.

Now, as to the positive feedback. I do like the new added ships. I feel that a gap has been filled by the addition of the Corax and the new mining frigate. I have mixed feelings about rebalancing, but, that's only small.



You've got it all wrong. Bring back the jukebox FOR EVE music. It's terrible that if I want to spend my time in nullsec, I will miss out on great music that I can only hear in high sec. And CCP, please don't give me the "soundcloud" crap.