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sally solamen
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#241 - 2012-12-04 20:31:34 UTC
Aramus Keeli wrote:
Don't like the target locks and target selection. Circles?, with the rest of the interface rectangular quadrilaterals. The square targeters were much nicer, more compact on a cluttered interface (which EVE has). They are in all ways, horrible.






here here
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#242 - 2012-12-04 20:32:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Korinne
Heavy missles didn't need to be nerfed, 100mn tengu's needed to be nerfed. Nerfing heavy missles for that reason is like saying Kenyans are op at track and field events, let's nuke Africa. Really I think it all stems from CCP being angry that people aren't playing the game the way they think it should be played. Drakes are easymode for these huge alliances since they can throw cookiecutter versions at 200 noobs and it still works. That doesn't mean drakes are op, that just means having 1000 people on grid is a broken mechanic the way it exists now.
Escomboli
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#243 - 2012-12-04 20:35:45 UTC
Korinne wrote:
Heavy missles didn't need to be nerfed, 100mn tengu's needed to be nerfed. That's like saying Kenyans are op at track and field events, let's nuke Africa.



I agree with the bolded statement for different reasons, but HM's did need nerfed. When a Tengu can pump out 650+ dps @ 100k+ with heavies there was a problem. Heavies weren't meant to be long range, high damage weapons. As CCP stated many time they were meant to be medium range. They are just bringing them back into line with what they should have been for a long time. They will most likely get a slight buff at some point, but don't expect to be doing heavy dps at long range with the Tengu, or the Drake.
Logix42
Taxation Damnation
#244 - 2012-12-04 20:35:48 UTC
The new targeting looks fancy and all buts its extremely hard to see when people are taking damage now. The health bars are much thinner so it's hard to see when the damage starts. It's a strain on the eyes and much higher stress. If I have to choose between new looks vs old functionality I definitely choose the old functionality. Form should follow function

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Basileus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#245 - 2012-12-04 20:37:26 UTC
The new Megathron look is indeed awesome.

I am truly impressed. Honestly. Improving looks has never been so successful in recorded history.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#246 - 2012-12-04 20:38:19 UTC
is there a problem with thread locking? (NOT DISCUSSING MODERATION!)

alot of perfectly forum abiding threads seems to being chopped up, not good for the whole tin foil hatted of us

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#247 - 2012-12-04 20:38:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Pohbis
The new targeting icons are a step in the wrong direction in terms of usability.

Damage is hard to decode and even tho the target area is bigger, the screen estate for the center images is smaller and makes them harder to recognize.

*EDIT* Also CCP, get your ISD volunteers in line. Their forum moderation is bordering ridicoulus at the moment.
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
#248 - 2012-12-04 20:39:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Angsty Teenager
Nevermind, double post, I see that ISD moved my original one.
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#249 - 2012-12-04 20:39:05 UTC
Escomboli wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Heavy missles didn't need to be nerfed, 100mn tengu's needed to be nerfed. That's like saying Kenyans are op at track and field events, let's nuke Africa.



I agree with the bolded statement for different reasons, but HM's did need nerfed. When a Tengu can pump out 650+ dps @ 100k+ with heavies there was a problem. Heavies weren't meant to be long range, high damage weapons. As CCP stated many time they were meant to be medium range. They are just bringing them back into line with what they should have been for a long time. They will most likely get a slight buff at some point, but don't expect to be doing heavy dps at long range with the Tengu, or the Drake.


A slight range nerf maybe, but they've literally cut them in half.
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade
#250 - 2012-12-04 20:40:47 UTC
Angsty Teenager wrote:
New targeting system is terrible.

Whoever thought that making a circle damage meter which is super small and impossible to see was a good idea should be fired. Humans read in a straight line, not in a circle.

Take some lessons on ergonomics.

My post is also full of annoyance because original post that was better in explaining my issues with it was deleted by some terrible ISD volunteer.


In a game of squares and lines, who thought circles were a good idea? It was probably some moron who was like 'didn't there used to be circles? let's reimpliment circles and tout it as a new feature, then we can avoid actually making new content and get back on the topic of abandoning Eve'.
Escomboli
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#251 - 2012-12-04 20:41:15 UTC
Korinne wrote:
Escomboli wrote:
Korinne wrote:
Heavy missles didn't need to be nerfed, 100mn tengu's needed to be nerfed. That's like saying Kenyans are op at track and field events, let's nuke Africa.



I agree with the bolded statement for different reasons, but HM's did need nerfed. When a Tengu can pump out 650+ dps @ 100k+ with heavies there was a problem. Heavies weren't meant to be long range, high damage weapons. As CCP stated many time they were meant to be medium range. They are just bringing them back into line with what they should have been for a long time. They will most likely get a slight buff at some point, but don't expect to be doing heavy dps at long range with the Tengu, or the Drake.


A slight range nerf maybe, but they've literally cut them in half.



They put them in line with other medium range weapon systems.
Stabmeldys
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#252 - 2012-12-04 20:42:43 UTC
Thanks for new targeting, need to get used to it.
Thanks for a camera view, that's rly fascinating!
Thanks for scanning double click center instead of one click that ofter was misclick.

With no sarcasm, thats all for now.
GUma Isu
Incognito Mode
Brotherhood of Spacers
#253 - 2012-12-04 20:43:05 UTC
CCP Arrow wrote:
Hauntable wrote:
Silver Coon wrote:
I really don't like that now when I use the scroll wheel in the market for modifying prices, I HAVE to be with the cursor over the price box for it to work. (PC)


Xilael wrote:
Who the f... changed the mousewheel settings so that it scrolls in the current window instead of the highlighted box?

Makes adjusting prices so slow...


"Scroll bars become active once the user hovers the area of their function which applies to both windows and tabs within windows"

This is a not a good change. Requires you to constantly move your mouse to the window/text box you want to scroll or you can end up scrolling a window in the background.


It is a common feature in recent interfaces to only need to intersect the area you want to control with the mouse without the need to click it first. It also allows you to be able to control that area in more ways like moving items and scrolling at the same time as mentioned above. We realize this is a change to how EVE used to be but we are quite sure it is the way we would do it if we were releasing EVE for the first time today and this change is part of updating the EVE UI so that it can keep evolving to meet the needs of the majority of our players.




well this make changing market orders by scrolling living hell , i get that for inventory it may be good tho i never had need to scroll while draging thigns at same time ... :) can you at least change back how scrolling worked before in respect to price change itself ? casue now it jsut starts to change values for more than 0.01 way to fast
Gilbert Intaki
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#254 - 2012-12-04 20:46:31 UTC
New issue after most recent patch:


* Logging on 1st client: Works fine

* Logging on 2nd client: Works fine

* Logging on 3rd client: Hangs after character selection.......

* Logging on 4th client: Works fine


This seems to happen arbitrarily to different clients/account, regardless of the order in which I log them on.
Only solution at this point is to kill the offending client and try again...and again..... and again. After a seemingly random number of tries, I am allowed to log in, but there's no method to this madness....



##Update##

Problem got worse this evening. It took me around 30 separate log-in attempts to get all my 5 characters logged in.
Bravo CCP. Yet another f*cked-up piece of coding released to your paying customers before proper bug control.
Maybe this really SHOULD be Free to Play. It sure as sh#t isn't worth paying for.....
Basileus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#255 - 2012-12-04 20:47:33 UTC
In fact, it almost looks like the that-way-inclined son of the orange county choppers guy with the strange moustache has had a nice polishing session with that Megathron bad boy.
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#256 - 2012-12-04 20:51:54 UTC
I have 3 major complaints. Other than them it looks pretty good.

1. Give back the Jukebox!

2. Increase the size of the HP bars in the targeting UI, or allow us to switch back to the old cube please.

3. New Megathron would look Caldari if you painted it another color. Model is to boxy, and lacking the old Megathron's sexy curves. Cry

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Angelica Scatterbrain
WH United
#257 - 2012-12-04 20:52:00 UTC
Escomboli wrote:



They put them in line with other medium range weapon systems.



Really? How long does it take a turret to begin applying damage from 40-70km? How long does it take a missile to begin applying damage from 40-70km?
Lord Azori
Bob's Bait and Tackle
#258 - 2012-12-04 20:52:58 UTC
The hard and fast limit of 1000 items is going to kill us in WH space. Especially since we cannot repackage anything. It does not take long at all to amass that kind of number with any kind of refitting. Please either raise this or give us the ability to repack, or do both :). This really is important to us WH dwellers.

Thanks,

LA
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#259 - 2012-12-04 20:55:22 UTC
Drag and drop into Bounty fields would have been nice
Syri Taneka
NOVA-CAINE
#260 - 2012-12-04 20:55:48 UTC
WTF is this ****? I have to go to ******* Caldari space to buy a specific ******* BP to replace my ******* corp hangar sections so I can actually sort my ******* **** in space?