Player Features and Ideas Discussion

by all means remove them from hi-sec if they are causing issues, but they are a great sources of frigate PvP in low-sec.

Don't remove these complexes form low-sec, please.

Supported.

I'll have almost no reason to cruise lowsec with a frigate after this change.

They bring activity , fights, isk in remote systems, lowsec islands, non FW systems etc.
FW should not be the only way to frigate pvp and 'arenas' with restricted ship classes.

Of course, there are some systems where chilling in top belt is a good way to duke it out, but seriously, how many ?

Rewarding the explorator is cool, but why remove a popular pvp option at the same time ?

Would CCP please grace us with an answer to this question: why would you decide to do this without releasing it in a devblog? Because this is actually quite a big deal.

Supported - not sure who did this change but maybe they should play the game a bit more

Ouch.

Jesus.

CCP, you really want to nuke one of the last places for solo and very small scale, fun and inexpensive PvP in EVE, and turn it into another type of exploration PvE? Really?

Move all highsec static plexes to lowsec, creating more spots for frigate-sized PvP in lowsec and increasing the number of people who would like to visit otherwise empty systems. It will also solve all of your farming troubles (the highsec static plexes suck, totally).

Don't do this. Just. Please. Don't.

Please leave the plexes in lowsec alone. If this change is to address a problem in HIGHSEC, make the change to HIGHSEC and not just another universal blanket change made without thought our regard for the way it will and could detrimentally change other parts of the game. Specifically lowsec. It can't be that difficult to leave the ones in lowsec alone while still changing the ones in highsec.

CCP please, take note here and make this change, saving an important and vibrant part of lowsec.

Reason might be the highsec afk farmers. Then delete the sites in highsec I`m okay with that. But keep them in lowsec.
Evil Piwats will take care of the farmers
And while there are no Afk lol farmers in the last pocket, the rest can have fun in frigatte massacres at the site entry. Don`t derp this sites out of lowsec!

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Making them pure pve is just wrong, find another way to prevent farming that doesnt hurt their role as pvp hotspot.

I do see the problem with people farming them, sitting cloaked in last room waiting for overseer to spawn, but putting them under exploration system would be bad for pvp.

OP Supported. I'm sorry you haven't heard from the CSM sooner on this, but frankly I was blindsided by this change just as you were, the first I knew of this was the patchnotes.

To explain how I feel about this situation - let me first tell you a story. Before we joined Late Night Alliance, Autocannons Anonymous had been living in the Gulmorogod constellation, with our base at the TLF station in Lulm. Our friends in Late Night fleets always like to crack jokes about us living there of all places (and away from the front lines between Kourmonen and Kamela), but what they overlooked was the value of the Angel Creo-Corp Mining site, not only in terms of farmable loot but in terms of the fights we could farm as well. (Though I still curse myself for literally recycling all those faction remote reps for minerals over the time we lived there now that we have logi frigates!).

Much like FW complexes, static DED sites are tremendous havens for small gang and solo PvP, and entire cultures spring up around them - from rivalries between ace pilots who live there permanently, to roaming gangs that follow regular routes visiting these sites, to corps like mine that relocated based on the existence of one of these in a convenient location. They are a valuable part of the low-sec "terrain", and much as eliminating agent quality killed what may seem like arbitrary variety, EVE's space is essentially drifting towards being more and more homogenous and having fewer and fewer chokepoints for conflict and piracy.

I couldn't begin to tell you why this decision was made, because CCP didn't discuss it with the CSM. That's not to say it can't be reversed, but obviously its not going to happen before Dec. 4. Needless to say I have as many questions as you do and luckily I have the opportunity to do so face-to-face a week from now in Iceland. I'll do my best to get to the bottom of this, thank you for your patience in the meantime.