Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Recently I have found that while mining I have been popped by players without justification or cause. Meaning I have been happily mining away minding my own business when a playground bully jumps in pops me then waits at the station for me to undock i a new ship....
This I understand is a part of the game, but from speaking to many players who only come on to mine for there corp or alliance (Thus helping the whole eve community) they feel the same as myself. So this set me thinking of possible solutions to this issue.

1. Remove the ability to shoot at a Player Owned Ship in area's with a security level of 0.6+
1.1 With this in mind: Still allow the Can Flipping Tactic. As if someone warps in and flips your can you then have an option of shooting them or leaving them to it. In effect giving the player an option Lose a ship/Destroy the enemy/leave them be etc...

2. Remove Pvp engagement all together in all high sec area's (0.5+) Including can flipping.
2.1 Although a less favourable option, a reduced amount or type of ore in these area's would keep players needing to go to lower sec area's. Again though it gives the player a choice, mine in safety or be brave and mine in other areas.

3. Remove the ability to engage mining vessels Such as the retriever/hulk/mackinaw (Unless they fire upon you) As seriously what can they do against anyone apart from send some drones in, at which point the PVP pilot pops them.

4. Add a PvP flag option. So for example if you aren't bothered in high sec with current rules, have an option to turn pvp on, thus allowing the current rules to be applied. If not have it turned off.
4.1 The flagging option would have to have a time delay on it, so if you are flagged and someone warps in it would take 60sec or whatever to un-flag yourself. Giving the pvp player a chance to pop you. In this case its the players own fault for being flagged in the first place.

As you can probably see the main focus of these potential idea's revolve around choice, and enjoyment of the game for both miners and pvp players. I strongly believe that at the moment the balance sways towards PvP players, and leaves the mining community exposed. I am sure with some help from everyone, we can work a fair arrangement out. for the majority that is, of course some players wont be happy about this kind of solution. But I think we will find that those people are the ones who are harassing weak targets. In my eyes only a bully or a coward would employ such a tactic.

Thank you for reading, and please add your suggestions and comments.

Regards

Ellie

Im sorry but high sec isnt safe the faster you learn this the better it will be for you.

A squad of re-education troops will be with you soon to educate you

if anything make the 'civillian' ships harder to kill, thats all I would ever suggest.

Agree'd I have spent the past hour speaking to a true pvp player :) I have learnt alot about it.
Though I do think a total Sec area would be nice :P
Although I do like the idea of making us a little stronger. Maybe instead of more security, the way froward maybe to add the ability to have weapons equipped alongside strip miners, a few more low slots for armour mods, or medium slots for shield mods.
effectively brining the mining vessels into a standard where they can fight back, or at least defend themselves effectively.

I am sure PVP'ers would love more of a challenge.

hulks shouldnt even be allowed in highsec, just like capitals are not allowed to be in highsec (or at least aggres =p)

They are the highest level mining ship in the game, and as such they should be used by the most skilled, to mine the best quality ores. a hulk was not made to sit there crunching on cruddy c.veld all day

But how does this solve the problem you ask?

Good question! Well, you see now that all the highly skilled hulk pilots are in 0.0 where they should be, they are protected by an alliance, have scouts, intel channels, and are alert. They earn more isk for their time, and have increased security, and no losses

This also leaves the remaining highsec targets unvaluable and pointless to suicide

You should see how many carebears are in TEST Alliance, all tehy do is mission and mine deep in a pocket of 0.0 where nobody bothers them, and they have 10+ systems of warning before anything even shows up in their mining system

I know from experience that a hulk can actually put up a good sustained tank if fitted right. Combine this with high resistances and you should be able to tank anything that would cost less than your ship and fittings. I managed to laugh at an arty cynnabl once, since he sat too far away to scram me and thought he could alpha my hulk.

You are locust, devouring everything in your path, leaving the area barren and desolate.

You will be stopped at any cost.

I have just given justification and cause.

The more people like you espouse flippant ideas about how you should be safe at all times the more you encourage people to destroy you.

Don't fly a Hulk, problem solved. Any exhumer or barge die, thats all they are good for. The reason so many like to pop them is because they are easy kills. Its like they don't even want to try for a challenge; attempting to hook up with a girl and get her into bed or hooking up with your knuckles...if you know what I mean as easy . Instant gratification, never can loose, and its just so much easier then trying to talk to a girl

this guy seems mad