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CCP & Goonswarm Marriage

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Sabotaged
Veritas Vincit
#1 - 2012-11-30 13:44:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabotaged
Goonswarm Federation is an Oligopoly and even a Monopoly. It's great that this game is player driven, but even in the real world Government has to deregulate companies that get out of hand to protect consumers.

Where is CCP?

"Being the leader of Goonswarm, the mastermind behind the most controversial alliance in EVE, is a role that does not mesh well with being the chairman of the CSM, which is a political position that requires being a good citizen."

“Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his [in-game] name is [REDACTED]“, Mittani declared.

He received a 30 day ban from CCP, which any District Attorney could probably swing inciting violence and definitely a felony of Manslaughter in the Second Degree. In the United States anyway. And we police the world with our moral superiority so its true.

Mitanni will be able to run for chairman once again in the near future. Really?

EULA - Failure to comply with these regulations can result in the immediate termination of your account and you will forfeit all unused access time to the game. You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player. CCP violated their own EULA.

Some of you might remember the developer who gave away 10 valuable blueprints to someone a few years back. What happened to him? An apology letter was left for the community in the form of a dev blog, he remained an Eve Online developer until late 2008. OH WOW AN APOLOGY LETTER!! Gosh.

The guy that revealed the developers name where he was getting the blueprints from? Banned for revealing the developer's username because CCP claimed it was a violation of their EULA. The only one I could find relating would be this

"You may not publish private communications from CCP, their agents or representatives or EVE Online volunteers without authorization. "

Lesson? If CCP helps you cheat, keep your mouth shut or they will ban you especially if you reveal their names and not get authorization first.

So in conclusion, I postulate that the Government(CCP) has more in common with the Mafia, perhaps a bit more technically, a Tyranny.. They have a relationship with Goonswarm which clearly anyone can see. Deregulation and protecting consumers? Who cares about the subscribers? Most of you are probably PLEX'ing multiple accounts.

Evidence they manipulate the market with things like PLEX prices by providing a ridiculously short supply. It couldn't happen without CCP allowing it too. Oh but the Goons bought it up right. Just proved it's a Monopoly once again and CCP allows their behavior.

CCP boasts about a Free Market? There are no Monopolies known as Goonswarm in a Free Market. CCP lies to your face.

I encourage people to comment, can't guarantee the mafia won't keep a closer eye on you. If I suddenly disappear its because the Mafia gave me Cement Shoes and I'm sleeping with the fishes.

Reply at your own risk.

-Sabotaged
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-11-30 13:47:27 UTC
IBTL for tinfoil hat rumour mongering

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-11-30 13:49:06 UTC
Well it's good to know you decided to take a stand and leave an alliance that has been blue to Goonswarm and the CFC for so long. It would've made you the worst kind of hypocrite to be a part of that group and benefit from such an obvious and unfair advantage until say, you got reset or something. Good thing that didn't happen!

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["

Ghazu
#4 - 2012-11-30 13:49:33 UTC
Hey look somebody got reset.

http://www.minerbumping.com/ lol what the christ https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2299984#post2299984

GallowsCalibrator
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-11-30 13:56:58 UTC
Someone is butthurt about a reset.
Mai Khumm
172.0.0.1
#6 - 2012-11-30 13:58:10 UTC
IB4L...

Enjoy your permaban for stating something we already know!

*Insert any Dev/ISD statement to contact internal affairs.*
Hannott Thanos
Squadron 15
#7 - 2012-11-30 14:02:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Hannott Thanos
Oh look, it's this thread again. In before lock

Also, "moral superiority", WAT?

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Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#8 - 2012-11-30 14:04:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Tul Breetai
There is no such thing as "the mafia". IB4 mysterious fatal accident

There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.

Sarmea Moon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-11-30 14:07:02 UTC
Sigh, this is what happens when you leave a game for a couple years and comes back. What ever happened to all the "BoB owns CCP and they sleep together and I'm butthurt about it" threads?

*insert M0o, ASCN must have had help cause Cyvok got the first titan* blah blah blah.

PS, if you hack accounts, you can expect to get permabanned, even if the "hack" was simply logging into accounts because the players were stupid enough to register with the same user/pass their game accounts were on. It's even easier nowadays to link players back to real online accounts like Facebook and Twitter, as people tend to use the same names across games (I certainly have 4 names I bounce between, but this one is the most common). I'd expect to be banned too if I posted your real name, your rl address etc. Even posting your OWN email addy on the forums was forbidden and subject to being edited by ISD.

The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse [lady of commercial virtue]. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.- James Nicoll

Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-11-30 14:11:07 UTC
this thread is seeking attention

be Brave, doomsday Jita, kill noobs, pod corp mates if you want to be heard.

whining is not vocal enough

This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.

WARP DRIVE makes eve boring

really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again

Sabotaged
Veritas Vincit
#11 - 2012-11-30 14:12:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabotaged
Yea uhm, first off I started this game 6-months or a year, and I had no experience with Goonswarm before joining MoA 2nd I'm not butt hurt, but your definitely a moron who makes idiotic statements and cant even do that properly. . I was one of the leading advocates to leaving the Goonswarm alliance and going back to the good old days of being a real pain in their ass.

The fact is, they claim to have reset us because we didn't participate in fleet operations. Blatantly a pathological lie that is an insult.. MoA was bribed to join GSF cause we were extremely irritating. We demanded Autonomy and no requirements to join Fleet ops. Why should we do fleet ops when GSF has specifically stated that MoA will not get replaced ships? I mean seriously I'm so glad we're out.

This agreement was made between MoA and Vile Rat god rest his soul and Goons decided to dishonor it by breaking their own word.

There was no warning about anything from GSF, but we got a heads up from some FA members, I will not reveal names. We just got reset, it was obviously planned cause the JB's were all moved before hand. They also waited 28 days after we worked our ass off to put down a new station. How Convenient.

Apparently this is how Goons operates and recruits new members. This also means that they care for nothing other then themselves. Does anyone in GSF alliance think that GSF won't turn on them on a dime when it suits them? If you believe that you really are an idiot.

Btw I said nothing about being reset against Goons, so stop being a dumbass. My issue is CCP's blatent favoritism with Goons and present evidence they are more like a Tyranny than a Free Market. Surprised I'm still here, wonder if this thread will vanish.

btw, >Remiel Pollard, I've been to jita too, all those neutrals really freak me out, isn't safe.
Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-11-30 14:15:46 UTC
Goons care about nothing but themselves!!!

*gives almost entire new captured region to allies*

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["

Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-11-30 14:16:41 UTC
Some quality butt-hurt right here. Lol
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-11-30 14:18:34 UTC
You fail at EVE.

Why is it so difficult for some of you to grasp that null sec is about empire building, CCP even states it very clearly if you read thier explination.

But you guys keep acting like it's just for guild housing.

You don't complain about any of the NPC empires. Just the player driven ones.
Some of you are really horrible sandbox players.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#15 - 2012-11-30 14:20:19 UTC
GSF reseting people without notice?!

errrmahhgeeeeeeeeeerd


Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#16 - 2012-11-30 14:21:04 UTC
Sabotaged wrote:
Goonswarm Federation is an Oligopoly and even a Monopoly. It's great that this game is player driven, but even in the real world Government has to deregulate companies that get out of hand to protect consumers.

Where is CCP?

"Being the leader of Goonswarm, the mastermind behind the most controversial alliance in EVE, is a role that does not mesh well with being the chairman of the CSM, which is a political position that requires being a good citizen."

“Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his [in-game] name is [REDACTED]“, Mittani declared.

He received a 30 day ban from CCP, which any District Attorney could probably swing inciting violence and definitely a felony of Manslaughter in the Second Degree. In the United States anyway. And we police the world with our moral superiority so its true.

Mitanni will be able to run for chairman once again in the near future. Really?

EULA - Failure to comply with these regulations can result in the immediate termination of your account and you will forfeit all unused access time to the game. You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player. CCP violated their own EULA.

Some of you might remember the developer who gave away 10 valuable blueprints to someone a few years back. What happened to him? An apology letter was left for the community in the form of a dev blog, he remained an Eve Online developer until late 2008. OH WOW AN APOLOGY LETTER!! Gosh.

The guy that revealed the developers name where he was getting the blueprints from? Banned for revealing the developer's username because CCP claimed it was a violation of their EULA. The only one I could find relating would be this

"You may not publish private communications from CCP, their agents or representatives or EVE Online volunteers without authorization. "

Lesson? If CCP helps you cheat, keep your mouth shut or they will ban you especially if you reveal their names and not get authorization first.

So in conclusion, I postulate that the Government(CCP) has more in common with the Mafia, perhaps a bit more technically, a Tyranny.. They have a relationship with Goonswarm which clearly anyone can see. Deregulation and protecting consumers? Who cares about the subscribers? Most of you are probably PLEX'ing multiple accounts.

Evidence they manipulate the market with things like PLEX prices by providing a ridiculously short supply. It couldn't happen without CCP allowing it too. Oh but the Goons bought it up right. Just proved it's a Monopoly once again and CCP allows their behavior.

CCP boasts about a Free Market? There are no Monopolies known as Goonswarm in a Free Market. CCP lies to your face.

I encourage people to comment, can't guarantee the mafia won't keep a closer eye on you. If I suddenly disappear its because the Mafia gave me Cement Shoes and I'm sleeping with the fishes.

Reply at your own risk.

-Sabotaged


4 years ago and they STILL can't just DROP IT. Roll

The Trolls are out in force today that's for danged sure. Oh that's right.....universities are starting to let out for the holidays, so here comes the half-mature people again.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

HVAC Repairman
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2012-11-30 14:21:07 UTC
id be more worried about our ties to the CIA

we'd waterboard you with mountain dew
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#18 - 2012-11-30 14:23:08 UTC
HVAC Repairman wrote:
id be more worried about our ties to the CIA

we'd waterboard you with mountain dew

Oh mountain dew, my favorite fizzy drink

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Sabotaged
Veritas Vincit
#19 - 2012-11-30 14:25:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabotaged
K this thread was meant to be a discussion. Obviously it's attracted some GoonWaffe idiots who clearly don't understand the definition of "Maturity" . One liners? Seriously? The only thing you can do is hijack the thread? That's kinda pathetic. Makes you look super guilty.

I'm finished with this thread until someone says something intelligent and worth while.
Sarmea Moon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-11-30 14:25:58 UTC
Yes, it is obvious you aren't a vet, and it's equally obvious that you're butthurt. Why else bring up something you clearly know nothing about? You know the guy that was banned was working FOR the Goons AGAINST BoB, right? The whole T20 thing was favoritism AGAINST the Goons (and the rest of EvE) right? But hey, keep throwing mud and hope some will stick, it's worked before right?

Now if you'll excuse me, my Russian Overlords are paging my alt. Something something fleet up something something "mate" something something "you owe me a ship* something something.....

The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse [lady of commercial virtue]. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.- James Nicoll

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