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CCP & Goonswarm Marriage

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#41 - 2012-11-30 14:44:24 UTC
Xinivrae wrote:
Mai Khumm wrote:
IB4L...

Enjoy your permaban for stating something we already know!

*Insert any Dev/ISD statement to contact internal affairs.*

But seriously, op, if you believe there is a problem of this nature, creating a spectacle on GD isn't the way to go. There's an internal affairs department for a reason. Here, I'll even help you out.

Feel free to shoot them an email. ...unless of course you're just desperately grasping at straws. ...Nah, you look like a good kid.

We're the bad kids. We're the ones being reported....

Cool

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Sarmea Moon
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-11-30 14:44:27 UTC
Sabotaged wrote:
Sarmea Moon wrote:
Yes, it is obvious you aren't a vet, and it's equally obvious that you're butthurt. Why else bring up something you clearly know nothing about? You know the guy that was banned was working FOR the Goons AGAINST BoB, right? The whole T20 thing was favoritism AGAINST the Goons (and the rest of EvE) right? But hey, keep throwing mud and hope some will stick, it's worked before right?.


I surmise that this particular developer didn't like Goons and had something to do with another alliance.I never stated that CCP and Goons were always hand in hand. I use it as evidence not your imaginary mud.

Please stop with the imaginary mud and listen to what I say specifically rather then invent or imply something that I did not say. I'm not butthurt and quite happy with the current state. i've said that already, perhaps your deaf, I cant help you with that.



Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about. If CCP were all for the Goonies, why were they accused of being all BoB alts? Oh yeah, 'cause it's always been fashionable to accuse CCP of being in bed with whomever is on top. Don't like Goonie market manipulation? Earn some damned iskies and manipulate it back. Don't like Hulkageddon, then suicide on the suiciders before they get the miners. Aren't organized enough? Seriously, that's your problem, not CCP's. BoB died because they had a director who was feeling unloved, and no one who was willing to fight anymore to hold their space. If it happened today to the Goonies, I don't think they'd fold. That's what a sandbox is about. The sand is there, feel free to play with it.

The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse [lady of commercial virtue]. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.- James Nicoll

Lex Alandar
Q Division Five
#43 - 2012-11-30 14:46:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Lex Alandar
Sabotaged wrote:
Yea uhm, first off I started this game 6-months or a year, and I had no experience with Goonswarm before joining MoA 2nd I'm not butt hurt, but your definitely a moron who makes idiotic statements and cant even do that properly. . I was one of the leading advocates to leaving the Goonswarm alliance and going back to the good old days of being a real pain in their ass.


So, you joined MoA as a noob, knowing nothing about anything (nevermind goons) then magically you acquire a nostalgia for how things used to be...


The fact is, they claim to have reset us because we didn't participate in fleet operations. Blatantly a pathological lie that is an insult.. MoA was bribed to join GSF cause we were extremely irritating. We demanded Autonomy and no requirements to join Fleet ops. Why should we do fleet ops when GSF has specifically stated that MoA will not get replaced ships? I mean seriously I'm so glad we're out.


A line member claiming a high knowledge of internal political matters....hrm. Too bad you have no idea what you are talking about.

http://i.imgur.com/0C0wQ.png perhaps this will clue you in.

edit: http://i.imgur.com/6XQZu.png oh look here's another one. Nothing like cold, hard, unemotional metrics.

SRP is something that is managed by your alliance, NOT the coalition. Why should another alliance pay for your losses? If you had participated sufficiently, you would have received more than enough rewards for your leadership to start their own SRP. Why should you get this hard-earned priviledge without working for it like everyone else?




This agreement was made between MoA and Vile Rat god rest his soul and Goons decided to dishonor it by breaking their own word.

Pathetic. (your emotional appeal here is just disgusting)


There was no warning about anything from GSF, but we got a heads up from some FA members, I will not reveal names. We just got reset, it was obviously planned cause the JB's were all moved before hand. They also waited 28 days after we worked our ass off to put down a new station. How Convenient.

Apparently this is how Goons operates and recruits new members. This also means that they care for nothing other then themselves. Does anyone in GSF alliance think that GSF won't turn on them on a dime when it suits them? If you believe that you really are an idiot.

Btw I said nothing about being reset against Goons,

Guess you should delete this post then....ohwai...


so stop being a dumbass. My issue is CCP's blatent favoritism with Goons and present evidence they are more like a Tyranny than a Free Market. Surprised I'm still here, wonder if this thread will vanish.


Hrm, well-run, properly organised groups succeed, while lazy, whiny groups do not. Working as intended?


btw, >Remiel Pollard, I've been to jita too, all those neutrals really freak me out, isn't safe.



Never go full ******.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#44 - 2012-11-30 14:47:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Sarmea Moon wrote:
Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about. If CCP were all for the Goonies, why were they accused of being all BoB alts? Oh yeah, 'cause it's always been fashionable to accuse CCP of being in bed with whomever is on top.

"on top" heh.
Lex Alandar wrote:
Never go full ******.

Always go full starstarstarstarstar

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

HollyShocker 2inthestink
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#45 - 2012-11-30 14:52:12 UTC
Sabotaged wrote:
Goonswarm Federation is an Oligopoly and even a Monopoly. It's great that this game is player driven, but even in the real world Government has to deregulate companies that get out of hand to protect consumers.

Where is CCP?

"Being the leader of Goonswarm, the mastermind behind the most controversial alliance in EVE, is a role that does not mesh well with being the chairman of the CSM, which is a political position that requires being a good citizen."

“Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his [in-game] name is [REDACTED]“, Mittani declared.

He received a 30 day ban from CCP, which any District Attorney could probably swing inciting violence and definitely a felony of Manslaughter in the Second Degree. In the United States anyway. And we police the world with our moral superiority so its true.

Mitanni will be able to run for chairman once again in the near future. Really?

EULA - Failure to comply with these regulations can result in the immediate termination of your account and you will forfeit all unused access time to the game. You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player. CCP violated their own EULA.

Some of you might remember the developer who gave away 10 valuable blueprints to someone a few years back. What happened to him? An apology letter was left for the community in the form of a dev blog, he remained an Eve Online developer until late 2008. OH WOW AN APOLOGY LETTER!! Gosh.

The guy that revealed the developers name where he was getting the blueprints from? Banned for revealing the developer's username because CCP claimed it was a violation of their EULA. The only one I could find relating would be this

"You may not publish private communications from CCP, their agents or representatives or EVE Online volunteers without authorization. "

Lesson? If CCP helps you cheat, keep your mouth shut or they will ban you especially if you reveal their names and not get authorization first.

So in conclusion, I postulate that the Government(CCP) has more in common with the Mafia, perhaps a bit more technically, a Tyranny.. They have a relationship with Goonswarm which clearly anyone can see. Deregulation and protecting consumers? Who cares about the subscribers? Most of you are probably PLEX'ing multiple accounts.

Evidence they manipulate the market with things like PLEX prices by providing a ridiculously short supply. It couldn't happen without CCP allowing it too. Oh but the Goons bought it up right. Just proved it's a Monopoly once again and CCP allows their behavior.

CCP boasts about a Free Market? There are no Monopolies known as Goonswarm in a Free Market. CCP lies to your face.

I encourage people to comment, can't guarantee the mafia won't keep a closer eye on you. If I suddenly disappear its because the Mafia gave me Cement Shoes and I'm sleeping with the fishes.

Reply at your own risk.

-Sabotaged


I have often wondered who regulates CCP? I mean how about some transparencies? Who watches CCP to make sure the DEV’s that play the game are above board? Shouldn’t these people be known to the community so they could ensure fair play? I think it would be most interesting to see where the CCP powers to be play their game.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#46 - 2012-11-30 14:53:16 UTC
Sabotaged wrote:
K this thread was meant to be a discussion. Obviously it's attracted some GoonWaffe idiots who clearly don't understand the definition of "Maturity" . One liners? Seriously? The only thing you can do is hijack the thread? That's kinda pathetic. Makes you look super guilty.

I'm finished with this thread until someone says something intelligent and worth while.

E equals ehm see squared.

Intelligent enough for you?
Sinse your thread was **** I don't think you're in any position to request "wrothwhile". How about you make a worthwhile thread first.


And no. YOU.
nyah nyah nyah, I CANT HERE U!@!!
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2012-11-30 14:56:11 UTC
Wacktopia wrote:
Fair enough, though sarcasm is typically used as a form of wit (the lowest, most famously)

No, yo' momma's the lowest form of wit
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#48 - 2012-11-30 14:59:02 UTC
Sabotaged wrote:
Goonswarm Marriage


I support Goon Marriage. If Goons want to marry each other and suicide gank themsleves with their penises on their honeymoon,I'm all for it.

Good to see a thread that is relevant to the social issues of today, especially regarding the rights of Goonosexuals.
Doddy
Excidium.
#49 - 2012-11-30 14:59:04 UTC
Sabotaged wrote:
Haydan Olney wrote:
I fail to see why complaining that their sand castle is bigger than yours is any one else's concern bar your own?

i have read and read and re read 100's of CCP and goons threads.... BORING

who cares!!!

They are a well oiled machine who take full advantage of the liberties that come within a game such as EVE.

If had had their cash, and their ability, id wreak havock as well!!!

After all, thats why we play isnt it?

Freedom of choice..



Did you even bother reading what I had to say. It's a complaint how we do not have freedom of choice and are at mercy to CCP's whims.

Again, in a FREE MARKET you don't have Goonswarm, I'm sure you can't understand why this is so I'm not going to bother.


This is entriely wrong, in a free market no government would break up a business or counter a monopoly in any way. This is why free markets are bad. Eve has a free market therefore it sucks to be the have nots.
Lance Rossiter
CHAINS Corp
#50 - 2012-11-30 15:00:33 UTC
The Goons are a major block of players, and from what I've read they're a long standing, loyal set of players who enjoy mixing things up and having fun. Why shouldn't CCP have a bit of a love affair with such an important and lively element of their playerbase?

That's not the same thing as actually intervening on their behalf in any sort of dodgy or inappropriate fashion. I've seen no evidence of anything like that, and your own example, Mr. OP, is that when a prominent goon said something inapropriate, he got punished for it.

You might think the punishment was a bit lenient for the offense, but as a neutral observer all I see are the rules being applied to the people you're saying are receiving special treatment. It's not exactly compelling evidence for the fairly bold assertion you're making.
CCP Falcon
#51 - 2012-11-30 15:03:13 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Falcon
If you have issues with an entity in game, try settling them with Ion Siege Blaster Cannons and Scourge Citadel Torpedoes rather than posting on the forums.

Do not bring your issues to the forums and start rumor mongering and ranting. This is against the rules and will only end badly for you.

If you do believe you have solid evidence of CCP bias, please feel free to send an email to internalaffairs@ccpgames.com

Locked for being a rant, nonconstructive, trolling, and flaming.

CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon

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