EVE General Discussion

Well it could have been a really interesting link to Dust players to be honest. I personally do not have the CQ - environment activated as it is pointless to stare at the exit door...
Probably WIS just is beyond the server capabilities....one solution may have been to instance the station environment on special servers (I really hate to bring the WoW excample here but I have to). I am sure they looked at all possibilities abd found that the technical possibilities are just not given at the moment....(Time dilataion in a station environment REALLY would suck ...).

I think the effort may be made if and once DUST performs well.

That is where you are so wrong. The very next thing for WiS is to give players guns to shoot at each other in stations.

That is what ships are for in eve. Why do we encourage WiS players? What good can it add to eve?
What roll can it play? All it does is eat system resources that are needed already elsewhere.

WiS adds nothing to the economic model of eve. It adds nothing to PvP unless you add guns and that is what dust is for.
It is only a distraction to the game. Hey already we have so many threads about nerf high sec because the PvP players want more targets. If you add WiS to eve a whole lot more players will become unavailable for PvP because they will be WiS!
WTF! It is so backwards to what eve is about.

The whole idea of WiS is detrimental to eve game play. It eats sytem resources, it occupies players that should be elsewhere, it occupies CCP employees that should be doing eve programing fixes instead.

IMHO you are just looking for something else to do while you are station camped. What a waste for CCP to add WiS to eve.
I can see all of the nerf WiS threads already. The complaints against it will be epic if it ever gets done.

Does not matter if you do not, a whole lot of people do get station camped and they will be laughing at the campers in local while hanging out in WiS environment. And that will lead to an epic backlash to nerf WiS on the forums.

If you want to play with dolls I have a ton of my kids barbie dolls to sell to you.

You sound like a reasonable person. So what is the reason to add WiS to eve? Why spend game resources on it? What will it add to the game that is themattic to eve? Give me a good reason other than I want it.

No reason listed in this thread is worth it. All I see are several good reasons to not add WiS to eve.

With pleasure.

After nearly 10 years, EVE has a fantastic number of ships and game mechanics. Not only have most of the "obvious" niches been filled, making it creatively much more difficult to think of new things to do, it is also developmentally more expensive too - whatever new ship, module or game mechanic is proposed, it must be very slowly and carefully developed to make sure it won't break anything that already exists in game. In mathematical terms, it's an NP! type problem, and EVE's "P" is getting really large now.

WiS literally offers an end run (OK, walk) around this problem. It's wide open because there's currently nothing to do in it. It is therefore a huge opportunity for CCP to score lots of "easy wins" in developing new things for us to do that won't interfere with the code of existing things, and won't obselete of the things that we do in ships. Additionally, they could use their experience to avoid some of the design mistakes that have plagued EVE over the years.

And finally, since CCP have already invested a huge amount of resources on the Carbon engine, i think it'd be nice if we actually saw some return on that. The :18 months: was bad enough. To end up with getting nothing from it would be worse. It's ridiculous to say that there's no gameplay possibilities for WiS - there are hundreds of avatar based games out there and thousands of good ideas CCP could easily lift and adapt into EVE.

Beside in this interview David Reid from CCP:





While, i think David Reid is a marketting guy in CCP. And in IT related companies marketting guys often has, how to say, a different point of view in respect of developers...


But jsut to see the possible general idea.

When WiS is eventually brought into the game, the possibilities are endless, the game could be taken to a whole new level with people specialising in assassinating clones of war targets in stations, destruction of station bound assets, shooting another player in the face over a game of cards, stealing other peoples ships while they're busy doing an EVA exploration, putting your own team into an exploration site with the aim of either beating others to the objective or just plain killing them after they've gotten to it and stealing whatever they found.

I laugh when people talk of dolls and barbies, I'm sure anyone with a sister has played with them before and your whole displeasure of them now is misguided. After all your zooming toy spaceships with terrible dimensions, unrealistic movements, much like a child making that buzzing noise as he runs around with an airplane. Get over yourselves.