EVE General Discussion

your sig would suggest different.

Please keep it scrapped.

Hey TA please move the enter captain's quarter button to the esc menu I don't want to see it in hanger or in right-click menu thanks.

If it doesn't add anything positive or worthwhile to the game then it is a waste of development time. When CCP can't even put together a decent number of people to re-balance game mechanics they certainly shouldn't be wasting time on worthless new 'features'.

It really depends on how they do it. If Star Citizen has the immersion and the story of Wing Commander, it could be quite big. If combat is fun and addictive, it could get bigger. And so on, and so forth. Plus the main draw for me personally is the promise that it will be a PC game at heart. No compromises for silly console restrictions.

And while a lot of the stuff is probably true (reg 100-200 player limit), is that really all that bad? Not everyone likes blobs. I certainly don't. And even 100 people shooting each other is a respectable number.

Flying capital ships, again depending on how it's done, might not be necessary. If you remember Wing Commander, in some ships you could switch between turrets (front or rear of the craft). They can also go the Planetside 1 route, where it took multiple people to drive tank - one to drive, one to man the turret), meaning larger craft might require 2-4 people cooperating to survive. And if the limit is 200 CRAFT, not 200 people, and some craft fit up to 4 people? That's 800 people in a battle, not too shabby.

They could add boarding action avatar combat within the ship. It's nothing new, first I saw it was in Starblade (Silmarils, 1990), and more recently in Pirates of the Burning Sea (Sony MMO, 2008). That could add a lot of depth to combat.

Depending on how they handle collision and line of sight, the combat itself might get very interesting, if smaller wounded craft can hide behind larger, heavily tanked units and avoid damage that way (this is also something Pirates of the Burning Sea had). Might make even relatively blobby combat a lot deeper than EVE's. We just don't know yet.

Bottom line, it's not a "threat" to EVE per se. EVE is a full-fledged MMO with all that that entails, and Star Citizen is more of a multiplayer game. BUT, if done right, we could see Star Citizen siphon a lot of players from many games, including EVE. Again, depends on execution and how far they're willing to take it. You just never know. I mean, look at Guild Wars 2, looked incredibly promising on paper, but the population is steadily going down as developers fail to address core issues. And many folks expected it to be the best thing to happen to the genre since sliced bread. You never can tell.

Having said that, adding avatar gameplay to EVE, and turning it from "spaceship game" into "sci-fi sim" could have been the best thing to happen to it. Let's face it, the game IS stagnating. There's "growth", but most of it is most likely alt accounts. The actual player numbers are nowhere near high enough. EVE's 65k peak concurrent users (or current 45k average) are nothing compared to GW2's recent 400k or WoW's recent 1000k concurrent users. It's not even in the same category. Avatar gameplay could change that. Or not. Personally I feel it's worth the risk, though obviously CCP disagrees and is happy to continue watching the game go on stagnating. Hey, it's their business. Literally.

WiS was a huge waste of resources. The only plus going forward would be to trim it off the release so it saves download time and disk space.

Yeah only to get more whining on these Forums about CCP doing it wrong

That have been prophesied by many.


...another one, amazing truly epic reveal?...

This is too "graphic".

So we are going to show something at Fanfest and discuss this with real humans ,was another we show something promise?

CCP - Certainly Can Procrastinate