EVE New Citizens Q&A

I'm a new player - about 1.5 months in.

I was doing a level 2 NPC mission in 0.8 space when I was attacked by another player. After a very long batte, I was killed.

CONCORD never showed up. Am I wrong to think that I can do simple missions in high-sec space at this point?

Does high-sec space mean nothing? Does CONCORD mean nothing?

So, I am a like a level 5 player in a world where level 80 players can kill you any time, any place, without consequence or reason to hesitate - is that right?

Sorry, what makes this worth playing?

Yes.

Do I need to stop playing Eve Online, but just raise my skills and do nothing else, until I can fit all Tech 2 gear?

Nope, you just need to understand the aggression rules.

Did he steal from you (loot a wreck)? If so, he would have turned red. If you then shot him that would give him the rights to retaliate without Concord response. (This is most likely what happened)
Is his corp at war with yours?

p.s. A Tech 2 fitted PvE ship would have just resulted in a more expensive lossmail.

Edit: Apparently I'm too slow.

There would have to be a reason CONCORD did not show up. Perhaps he stole from one of your wrecks, turning him red in your overview... then you shot at him thinking he was shooting at you. This would let him shoot you back.

Perhaps he put out a can that you thought was yours, and you took from it. Allowing him to shoot you.

There are lots of tricks that more experienced players use to get noobs to mess up. The key is to know the tricks and not fall for them.

That's one option. The other option is to just ignore any player that warps into your mission. Don't shoot him, don't loot yellow wrecks or cans and they won't be able to do anything without getting concorded.

Also, consider moving to a quieter area. You're 1 jump from a trade hub in a system that gets ~ 10000 jumps and 21 ship kills a day.

All of the other posters are correct in their advice, and for future reference with regards to CONCORD; they provide punishment *not* protection. The difference is very important, so take this into account when assessing your risk of being suicide ganked (although only ships worth several hundred million ISK or more are usually suicided in high sec).

Yep most likely reason is one of:
1) He stole from one of your wrecks, turned red flashy, you shot him. So he could shoot you back ("defend himself") without CONCORD intervening.
2) He warped into your mission while you were looting and dropped a can of his own, which you scooped up thinking it was loot from your mission, and that gave him permission to shoot you (since you unwittingly became a "thief")

Best advice to prevent it happening again, is to never ever shoot another player unless you know what you're doing, and never ever loot from a yellow wreck or container. As long as you don't do either of those, anyone who attacks you will get killed by CONCORD, hopefully (but not guaranteed) before you blow up.

IMO the fit is OK for a newbie doing level 2 missions. Of course it sucks and will need changing when you move on up. But for now, it will get the job done just fine.

OP, I'm a n00b too, under 3 months and this happened to me as well. From what I've learned everything above is great advice. I've followed most of it. Let me add one thing. Convo whoever killed you. Seriously, with the right attitude, they will tell you what you did wrong and offer suggestions. The couple times I lost a ship, I bucked-up and asked 'How did you get me? I want to learn'. So far, I've learned the characters & environment in EVE can be harsh, but players are generally good natured people.

A NORMAL cruiser will get the same job done for less ISK in a level 2.
Hell, a properly fitted destroyer can take level 2 missions.

That fit made me wash my eyes with bleech. I'm totally with Sin Pew on this one.

With those modules on that ship, he is not likely ready for a BC.


To OP:

CONCORD is the space police, they are there to punish any offender, not to protect you completely. Learn the difference, you don't go outside your house and suddenly you are surrounded by police when a robber sticks a gun to your face.

But as said, in your case, likely you fell for the can/loot flipping bait. And no matter which ship you brought, no matter what fit. A PvE fit will loose 95% of the battles against a PvP fit, cause of the major differences between them.

What makes this game worth p(l)aying?

Well EVE is what you make of it. If you only see the downsides and bad things in EVE, then yes you will wonder why you are playing and will stop Soon™.

While there are downsides, pirates, scums and what ever name you can call those persons, there are even more good, friendly people. The game is awesome as it requires things that most games lack which is the need of a good pair of brains, some determination and the ability to evolve in the game (live, learn and adapt - or die).

This is also what makes EVE a different game and keeps the subs relatively low compared to other MMOs. There are 2 types of people in EVE. The ones that totally love it and are suitable for it, those have said goodbye to their friends and family as EVE is their new Real life and they stick around or those that hate is and mostly don't make it past the first 3 months. Which you are, well that is up to you, but I hope it's the first.

Yeah, that fit is very bad...I was wondering how a solo Slasher got the best of you but geezus that fit.