EVE General Discussion

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Sorry if it's already been covered, I tried looking through and I didn't see it anywhere.

But for the love of god can we make it so FW mates can rep flashy FW mates without taking faction standing hit!?

I understand the need for GCC, that makes atleast a little bit of since, but losing standing with Amarr for repping Amarr does not. Especially since some GM's just give it back anyways, so I've been told.

What about using the Incursion mechanics for player incursions? Attackers win, then system loses sec status. System goes below 0.0 then they win the system.

Sec status of gained and held system would slowly increase over time, as long as they're not successfully attacked.

Not an FW expert , hell never joined it but pirated in the FW area's though.

That said i think this change MIGHT get more people into FW as FW is something wich certainly will appeal to new players IF they can do it in high-sec too.Basically you are talking constant wardec/RvB style here.

I for one would immetialty join FW if this change would be implemented.But as said not an active FW pilot so the needs for the current FW pilots offcourse should stand above others as they have been urging for changes for way too long allready.

If you are going to touch flashies and rep mechanics, can you also look at the GCC? It makes no sense that two flashy gangs can shoot each other with no GCC, but the instant someone activates a remote rep the sentries open up.

Don't forget that if you remove the faction police FW will become a lot less casual friendly.

Take me for example: I have far too little time to play due to rl issues and work related stuff. I am in FW and when I do find the time to log in I have a nice choice: I can run a relaxed Lv 4 or I can go to lowsec for some unrestricted pewpew. I like to be able to have the choice! If I want to pew fulltime I can just join a nullsec alliance.

imo removing faction police is making FW less attractive to people like me. Now we have a choice, after this change we won't.

First of all I'd love to see the FW LP gain tuned down, to get rid of the mindless stealth bomber farmers. Money is good, and I've made a lot through it, but it just brings so many alts who don't care for it, and just run around in a bomber farming.

Secondly, I'd like to see it not just take place in Lowsec, I think the Caldari Border Zone and Gallente Border Zone in highsec would be a fantastic secondary battleground, and hopefully more newbie friendly as well, instead of throwing them in Lowsec with no clue how to survive the locals. (Of course keeping the missions in lowsec and having a bigger reward for taking part in lowsec)

Another cool idea would be the smaller factions throwing their weight behind one of the empires, in lowsec so instead of knowing "Right in this complex, its going to be same old same old there could be NPC's using different tactics"

For example, Gallente having Syndicate help (yes I know they aren't friendly ><) in lowsec, with long range kitting NPC's instead of just the Gallente NPC's being kited to high hell. Or Mordus for Caldari doing something funky. (Amarr could see Ammatar and Minmatar the Thukkers.)

Just a few ideas me and some of the guys were talking about the other day

Have FW systems "evolve" based off of ownership. The longer you own it the higher the sec status gets, and the stations would slowly shift and will be ran by said faction corporations.

Using the Incursion mechanic except with Factions.

This would be bad. It removes one of the few ways that the factions actually participate in the war, which would make it even more phoney. Also, some of us enjoy the daring raids into enemy hisec and the necessary planning to do it.

As for suggestions, I've posted previously, but for you convenience summarise them here:

Replace regular missions with missions to capture complexes
eg Minmatar Agent: "Our operative has detected an Amarr complex in Oyanata system, go and capture it and return to me"
or Amarr Agent: "Our operative has detected an Amarr complex under attack in Oyanata system, go and save it and return to me"

• The same mission could be given to multiple players.
• LP and ISK reward would be the same as for a regular mission of the same level.

This way the militias would actually get pod pilots actually working towards faction warfare's supposed goals, promote PVP and gang activity.

It could either replace or supplement the poor plex spawn mechanic.

Also:

• Require all NPC's to be eliminated to allow capture of complexes
• No docking in enemy occupied systems
• Either keep racial flavour of NPC Ewar but fix the counter, eg ECCM vs ECM, or Equalise NPC Ewar
• More LP for kills
• Bounties for system/plex capture based on standings gain

I do not like this idea. The high-sec protection is one of the things that makes it possible to be in FW without committing fully to it. Removing this will just mean that corps will leave FW and re-join it when necessary. Don't.

Also, we do not need *more* people camping trade hubs with 10 neutral reppers to make sure they don't lose their precious ship. Don't make FW an attraction to those people. Maybe if you fix that "tactic" first.

Removing faction NPCs from plexes would make sense, though, but it requires something to balance out the "Army of Alts" simply capping plexes. E.g. add a minimum size of ships to cap a plex.

You'd do us all an ENORMOUS favor already, though, if you simply removed the post-DT plex spawning. That alone is simply a turnoff and means I do not even have to bother looking at FW, because I happen to be at work when most important fights take place.