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And bounty offices ought to be in a shady section of space stations, far end from where CONCORD has theirs.

yeah you really can't take a bounty office seriously if there's office ferns in little pots everywhere

If they keep the limitation that you cant eject from targetted ships anymore. this part is a non issue.

Flat fee.

Period, the end.

Thinking too hard about something that is simple.

Right now? Anonymity. It's hands-off. You could plausibly grief someone out of the game without them ever knowing who or why, or be able to respond to it. With the depth of some wallets, I could see people picking names at random, just to amuse themselves.

I think this is really the best argument for knowing who put a bounty on you. If nothing else, it gives you a means to respond, by placing a bounty on them or their corp, or even deccing them. The system is all about consequences, but there should also be some consequences for using the system, no?

I don't find thinking hard.

^^ Needs to be underscored more because it has been a constant point of misunderstanding ever since the first hints about the new system started coming out.

The only thing this new bounty system will do is make it a risky proposal to fly expensive ships, depending on how the ship value is calculated. For instance, if it were straight market value, a jump freighter would pay out ~1.5bn ISK for the hull alone, which is right up on the edge of being profitable on its own… and then there's the question of what — if any — payout you get for the cargo and whether or not you can scoop up some loot while you're at it.

What kill-rights will a freighter pilot have generated?

OOH! OOH OOH OOOH!!!

Something I'm gonna steal from Sword Art Online would be great for this! (At least I think it would)


Finding out the bounty issuer could start with a flat fee. Say it's 5m ISK.

The Bounty Issuer then gets a message saying that a request has been made to reveal their name. If they don't want their name revealed, they can pay an increased price of their choosing (minimum 5m ISK above the price offered by the other person.)

The person with the bounty on them then gets a message asking them to further escalate (minimum 5m above the previous offer) and this continues until one side stops escalating.

If the bounty issuer declines to escalate the price, or doesn't respond within like, 24 hours then their name is revealed.

If the person trying to find out the name of the jerk that put a bounty on them declines the offer or doesn't respond within 24 hours then they won't be given another opportunity to find out the other person's name.


Or maybe the 24 hour limit could start from when the bounty is placed, and all escalations have to be made within that time, including the initial 5m one. I dunno. Could be kind of a fun ISK sink though.

I'd like to echo the concern that as it stands, it'd be too easy for someone with outstanding killrights against themselves to scrub those killrights by killing themselves in a cheap ship with an alt. Killrights should only be removed if the value of the kill exceeds the price paid for the killright, IMO.

This is a great start overall! To share some of the feedback I've given privately to the team, now that the information is out...

Here are the strong points:

-Incrementally-paid bounty pool, no using an alt to collect a high bounty for profit. Each payout comes at the loss of something more valuable. This is critical to the creation of a less exploitable system.

-Flexibility in being able to place bounties on individual, corps, AND alliances. Bounties on structures are desperately needed as well (SOMETHING has to lend itself to resembling a "mercenary marketplace", allies aren't it) though I respect that the team has many technical hurdles to overcome when dealing with structures, hopefully this will be a priority following the Winter release.

-Kill right integration. This is CRITICAL to using the bounty-hunting system to expand PvP opportunities into high sec that weren't previously available. Otherwise, you still have to suicide gank someone to get a payout, and the loss of your gank ship may not justtfy the earnings on the incremental payout. Being able to buy a killright from a victim and use it to legally aggress someone in highsec in order to claim a bounty is very important for this to see widespread use and popularity and for true "player justice" to occur.


And some areas of concern:

-Minimum bounty amount. This puts a big damper on the "little guy" being able to chip in some money into the pool on a player or organization's head. If its a pool that's used to make payments on kills, I see no reason why individuals can't contribute to that pool incrementally. It seems like an unnecessary barrier of entry that will only limit its use.

-Lack of being to set up specific collection criteria. While this system is a huge improvement over the existing one, its still all publicly-redeemable. It would be fantastic if player could set up specific recipients for bounty collection, and would help create a market for the services of successful Bounty Hunters or successful Bounty Hunting corporations. While it is not PROFITABLE to claim one's own bounty, its still possible. Again, it sounds like this is a matter of when, not if, we'll see this capability.

-Related to above, what is stopping me from having my alt buy and claim my killright and redeem it by killing me in a cheap frigate? If being able to specifically dictate who can claim a killright isn't going to come with the earliest release, it leaves open room for easy shedding of killrights.