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Crimewatch is Rubbish

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loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#1 - 2012-10-09 04:42:35 UTC  |  Edited by: loyalanon
So I have been reading up on the new Crimewatch updates coming out in the next expansion and so far all I can say is it looks total ****.

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What is your take on it?

How can gankers profit from ganking?

lets visit the following scenario -

Player A shoots Player B and player B blows up.

Player B's wreck drops, now when you loot that wreck you are freely attackable by everyone,

CCP have given into the carebears demands and given into the demands of Miners wanting to AFK mine without fear of being ganked by buffing the EHP on all mining barges, with the upcoming crimewatch changes to be implemented this to seems as a way to give in to carebear demands.

They have now pretty much effectively given into remove all forms of unprovoked aggression in high sec.

When I first started playing eve, I played due to the nature of eve, and how you are never safe when undocked and you can partake in non-consensual pvp with other players.

Now it seems that this game while promoting piracy and doing bad deeds to people in-game, it is effectively ruined to cater to the highsec carebears demands of a safer playground for them to mine in. but yet CCP are still promoting it as a Combat Zone that anyone can be a part of.

Whats next? will low sec pvp also be outlawed because carebears cant pvp safely?

While this may seem like a rant, I would appreciate your thoughts on the above. While CCP is a business and needs to make money, they have ruined and lost sight of what makes eve a great game.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-10-09 04:50:23 UTC
We shall see... soon

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Taoist Dragon
SHAVED
#3 - 2012-10-09 06:19:25 UTC
It's just a different set of rules to work with thats all.

TBH i think it is fine.

Adapt or die. vOv

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#4 - 2012-10-09 06:33:03 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
It's just a different set of rules to work with thats all.

TBH i think it is fine.

Adapt or die. vOv


I like the quote - Adapt or Die.

Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smile

You have given me food for thought my good sir.
Taoist Dragon
SHAVED
#5 - 2012-10-09 06:46:01 UTC
Other thing to think about is that you won't go GCC by attacking and blowing someone up in Low sec.

you'll get a 'suspect' flag instead. and tbh it probably won't affect any of the pirates/ls pvp'er that I know in any meaningfull way really.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Daemon Ceed
Ice Fire Warriors
Infinite Pew
#6 - 2012-10-09 08:40:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Daemon Ceed
Jesus, seems like there is no lack of whiners and crybabies these days. The new crimewatch will be just fine, and I personally welcome the chance to kill more people for attacking me simply by can flipping.

Lets be real though, the EHP buffs on exhumers haven't made it any harder to gank, tbqh. I can still solo kill a Hulk in a 0.5 with a T2 blaster fitted Catalyst. I usually do it with friends anyways, because you know...share the joy!

But lets look at the premise of your argument. If you did something to someone in highsec that gets them to aggress you, you've already become a Suspect and subject to attack from everyone anyways, regardless if you kill them and take the loot. Most highsec carebears are too cowardly to try to fight you anyways, but if they do it'll probably be in a terribad fit ship. This will only lead to more kills by those who know what their friggen doing.

I'm personally welcoming the changes to lowsec small gang warfare. No more stupid 15 minute GCC just for shooting someone is really nice, and the fact that you can roam with logi so much easier is even better.

Perhaps you need to drop your sack a little, leave highsec, and learn to come pvp in lowsec. It's finally going to be worth it again!

CCP Soundwave gave a good talk during Eve Vegas about how he'd eventually like to get rid of Concord all together and have the players be the police in Eve. He also mentions how the "Circle of Dickery" is their ideal goal where causing harm entices revenge, thus making a domino effect and completing the circle.
Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-10-09 09:01:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ra Jackson
Some gankers and canflippers really are the biggest crybabies.. terrible.
"Oh noes, now I actually have to put effort into looting/canflipping."
What's your problem? Don't gank and loot in front of Jita 4-4 and you should be fine Roll

loyalanon wrote:

Whats next? will low sec pvp also be outlawed because carebears cant pvp safely?


Lowsec PVP will actually get easier coz you won't get GCC for killing ships.
Aducat Ragnarson
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2012-10-09 09:59:49 UTC
I believe that this will actually bring more pvp into highsec.
Just imagine, all the systems are filled with can flippers who can shoot each other freely. Of course it might put a dent into ganking a freigther and looting it then, as the looter can be shot by everyone, but you can adapt to that by being quick with the loot and warping off.
The usual can flippers might not be able to securly kill noobs anymore, but I hope that this will somewhat revive frig pvp in the form of can flippers fighting all over the place against each other, which is a lot more interesting for everyone. If the stupid barge is not willing to take the flip, you will still be able to find targets, or be found.
Ivana Twinkle
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-10-09 10:08:24 UTC
If the OP is as "elite" as his corp name would suggest, I'm sure he'd find a way to work the system like the rest of us.
Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
Train Wreck.
#10 - 2012-10-09 10:58:12 UTC
Good bye pvp eve and say hello to wow in space. This truly would be the final nail in the coffin so 2013 could be the last year of eve?
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-10-09 11:13:49 UTC
Brewlar Kuvakei wrote:
Good bye pvp eve and say hello to wow in space. This truly would be the final nail in the coffin so 2013 could be the last year of eve?


My DEC list just get longer and longer.

Any any event. This is going to cause alot more kills and people shooting at each other. SO next time you flip that random can or wreck 16km off a gate. Everybody is going to shoot at you.

Good times.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Signal11th
#12 - 2012-10-09 11:17:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Signal11th
Taoist Dragon wrote:
It's just a different set of rules to work with thats all.

TBH i think it is fine.

Adapt or die. vOv



Which is another way of saying like it or lump it but never complain about it. One of the worst Mems out there bit like the word "Sandbox" which is fine until you figure an actual way to play in a real sandbox way and it either gets nerfed or you get banned for a exploit.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#13 - 2012-10-09 11:24:38 UTC
loyalanon wrote:

When I first started playing eve, I played due to the nature of eve, and how you are never safe when undocked and you can partake in non-consensual pvp with other players.


"Waaaaaaa, I dont like it when I'm the one the non-consentual pvp happens to."


So let me get this straight.... you love ganking hisec haullers and/or mining barges, "woohoo HTFU stupid bears!!!!" Yet as soon as there is a chance that your actions could receive some retaliation, "its not fair, I dont want any pewpew"

Jeebus, what a massive cry baby!

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#14 - 2012-10-09 11:26:56 UTC
New crimewatch is going to be glorious.

Canflippers/griefers are finally going to get what they claim to want......lots more pvp in highsec.

Just...it might not be the pvp they want.....Lol

I can't wait to see some guy in a Hurricane flip a newbs can in Couster and then get bum-rushed by 200+ Velators......

It will be glorious, I tell you.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Gallente Citizen 827473904528
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-10-09 11:37:55 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
New crimewatch is going to be glorious.

Canflippers/griefers are finally going to get what they claim to want......lots more pvp in highsec.

Just...it might not be the pvp they want.....Lol

I can't wait to see some guy in a Hurricane flip a newbs can in Couster and then get bum-rushed by 200+ Velators......

It will be glorious, I tell you.





Looking forward to 200 kill mails Big smile

It'll be fun to watch the wannabe heroes trying to save the day and gaining extra kill mails Twisted
Tortise Winkle VonDudenberg
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-10-09 11:44:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Tortise Winkle VonDudenberg
loyalanon wrote:

How can gankers profit from ganking?


The same way they always did. Point click f1. Sept now you have to bring backup and choose targets wisely instead of just gankin everything. Far to long have gankers had the upper hand. Now its a level playing field. Like dude up there said "Adapt or Die".

loyalanon wrote:

lets visit the following scenario -

Player A shoots Player B and player B blows up.

Player B's wreck drops, now when you loot that wreck you are freely attackable by everyone,


Uhhh when you attack player b. You're already flagged. That wreck is your least concern. Roll

loyalanon wrote:

CCP have given into the carebears demands and given into the demands of Miners wanting to AFK mine without fear of being ganked by buffing the EHP on all mining barges, with the upcoming crimewatch changes to be implemented this to seems as a way to give in to carebear demands.

They have now pretty much effectively given into remove all forms of unprovoked aggression in high sec.

When I first started playing eve, I played due to the nature of eve, and how you are never safe when undocked and you can partake in non-consensual pvp with other players.


You are still never safe when you undock and never will be. The only thing changing is that other people can shoot you for being a bad now. Its no longer "undock find someone to gank, gank, Scoop loot rinse repeat". If they have to watch out for you. Why shouldn't you have to watch out for them? Being a bit one sided are you not?

loyalanon wrote:

Now it seems that this game while promoting piracy and doing bad deeds to people in-game, it is effectively ruined to cater to the highsec carebears demands of a safer playground for them to mine in. but yet CCP are still promoting it as a Combat Zone that anyone can be a part of.


You say zone as if you just logged off of WoW. I suggest reloggin. While also promoting piracy and doing bad things to people . CCP will be promoting policing, And bounty hunting. Add those to the list of "things to do within eve". More player creatable content we shall call it
loyalanon wrote:

Whats next? will low sec pvp also be outlawed because carebears cant pvp safely?


Uhhh dude. Carebears don't pvp. And the ones that do, You wouldn't engage anyway.

This wasnt even thought through correctly. Before posting take a break. Log in your panda. Level him up a few, Run through fields of ponies and stuff, Drink a warm glass of tea. Then see if you still feel the same. If you do. Go ahead and post Tiger (or panda).
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#17 - 2012-10-09 12:15:26 UTC
Gallente Citizen 827473904528 wrote:



Looking forward to 200 kill mails Big smile

It'll be fun to watch the wannabe heroes trying to save the day and gaining extra kill mails Twisted



Yes, because he'll smartbomb them all, obviously.

Never seen what 20+ frigs can do to a battleship/cruiser, have you?

Roll

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.

Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2012-10-09 13:28:23 UTC
I see countless ships dying - kitet away from undocks by can-flippers...

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

Doddy
Excidium.
#19 - 2012-10-09 13:29:43 UTC
Looks like a massive buff to hi sec pew pewers to me.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2012-10-09 13:32:44 UTC
Doddy wrote:
Looks like a massive buff to hi sec pew pewers to me.


I had some time to think about it. First I was sceptic and only saw the downsides...but I think pvp will benefit a lot of the new Crimewatch...not only in highsec.

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP

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