Player Features and Ideas Discussion

how is 35m3 helpful? mediums against frigs are a waste of time they wont track them why odd numbers doesn't make sense just improve the drone hp/dmg bonus instead do it across the board would be useful

I'm afraid not. If you're getting half of your damage from turrets on your Myrm, then you must have abysmal drone skills. My suggestion is to train more drone skills (drone interfacting will give your drones a significantly stronger dd hit, drone ss will have them hitting more often, etc.).

I also want to comment that they "don't design ship[s] for pve"--I think the entire line of Mauraders would say no, as well as the Raven and several others. The fact is that a large group of players solely do pve content, and I think it's a terribly short sighted and fairly weak attempt at a straw man argument to say that all ships are designed with pvp in mind.

Also, I'm going to disagree again that "a weapon bonus on a drone boat make (sic) it twice as much effective than a second drone bonus. . . ." Again, the problem with split weapon systems is 1) they require much more skill training to execute them effectively and 2) you have to deal with twice the positional requirements, etc., when applying your dps. If drone ships were double bonused for drone damage and application, (in exactly the same way that turret ships are (pick two: RoF, Falloff, Tracking, Damage %, etc.) then you would see the largest percentage of the damage coming from their primary weapon systems--namely, drones.

"Drones would simply die"--is really unfortunate, and should seriously be addressed. I'm not aware that my lasers on my Abaddon can "die" in any fashion. And I've never heard of my friends' 1400mm Arty doing the same, either. While it's obvious that drones should be killable, it's not obvious that ships that derive a large part of their damage (and hopefully one day nearly all of it) should have an easily killable weapons system. Missile launchers and turrets will never get sniped by a gate gun rendering that ship useless. +20% drone hp/level is one way to go. Additionally, drones already have some serious drawbacks. Fight start-to-dps-application time is already slow, and I can't overheat my drones for that extra oomph to finish my opponent off. The way to kill drones (outside of a lengthy gunfight with one) should be to kill the ship that launched them. Period.

Please don't compare "the amarr way" because their drone ships are EWAR primary ships, with drone damage as a secondary application method. I'm not sure how you are intending that the Gurista way somehow disables their opponent ships, as their ships have no bonuses or similar to support a conclusion that their design intent is to disable ships while their drones do the killing. If anything, their +missile damage role bonuses support a finding that they are missile/drone ships over drone/drone ships.

Unfortunately, at the end of the day, all drone ships are split dps weapon systems, except carriers, which are in a completely different category and beyond the scope of this discussion. There are no "solely focused" drone ships. This, too, really needs to be addressed. Drones are a fun weapons system that should have hulls devoted to making those little guys hit like rocks and allow the mothership hull to kite. Hell, everyone else has kiting-desiged hulls, and they don't have to worry about their guns being blown up.

I checked the DPS for Mymridon with maximum skills and no damage/control mods, no implants, using Hammerhead IIs and Heavy Neutron Blaster II with Antimatter charges using EFT.
On paper, the total DPS is 490.6. Blasters contribute 253 of that, Drones 237.6.
I do concede that the only way that total DPS can be achieved is if the Myrm is hugging its target at same time as its drones orbiting said target.

Switching to 250mm Railgun II in order to homogenize the engagement range as the Drone control range require Iridium charges and contribute 95.5 DPS for a total DPS of 333.1

Not looked into the fittings of these things too much yet but is this lack of PG when using T2 launchers and other T2 modules? If so then I see no problem as fully T2 fit is for the people who have the support skills to fit it (as in veterans)

I don't know how you are getting too little PG. Are you trying to put oversize expanders on or something?