Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Making the gallente ship have higher damage output than amarr ships seem to be the point behing the higher bandwith. This should still be true but gallente ships should get higher hull bonuses to drone damage and HP, but keep a smaller drone bay.

The higher bandwidth on gallente ships is an outdated bonus, as it goes back to when only bandwidth regulated the number of drones could be deployed I can longer find where I read this information, so it is void factually.

Hurray for you and your ability to do math.

Heaven forbid anyone could possibly overlook something.

And if they have a web going on drone's target? or TP? Or both? Would it change significantly then?? Not being snide, I seriously don't know myself?


Its also a shame to see caldari lose a high slot to become on par with the race that specializes in projectiles. Sure they overlap a bit, but so do the cormorant and catalyst, and who has the higher hyb turrets slots there?

So, maybe the high slot for caldari should go back to 8, or minmitar swap a launcher slot or two with turrets.



CCP - don't forget! Destroyers should be something frigs fear!!! .... (and what cruisers laugh at... )

PS- Did I mention Peregrine for a Caldari destroyer name?? LOL

It would be better if the dps was purely put into the light drones as the prime target for the destroyers by nature is frigate sized ships.

Bandwidth was to reduce how many drones you could control despite how many drones you have space for i.e. the ishkur used to have the ability to deploy 5 medium drones with it's 50m3 bay however the bandwitdh reduced it to 25.

Another example of this was the Myrm where they changed it so that it could only use 3 Heavies previously it could deploy 5 heavies

http://www.eve-search.com/thread/424067-0/page/1



Yes and medium drones are next to pointless on smaller ships for what isn't much more in the DPS increase due to tracking etc.

So Gallente get the "potentially more useful than the other drone counterpart in a situation I'd never actually choose to engage in" destroyer by that logic. Nice.

I think you have "wannabe bitter vet status" as you seem to be missing the point that if you design something to achieve a task you don't flimsily tack on something that is useless to that task and call it a feature.

You wouldn't add a small and medium weapon bonus to a ship just because they might want to use a 2 medium guns and 3 small at some point.

This ship is a great chance to add something that is well thought out and works to fulfil it's role.

We have the other 3 races as wonderful ships, why is it so hard to make a good gallente ship that isn't a jack of all trades or a half bred clone of another ship's feature implemented poorly for no reason.

Then don't use medium drones? Why is that so difficult? You don't "have" to use the full bandwidth. A flight of bonused lights, and 5 tracking bonused guns is still gonna rip up frigs. If you want something else then go whine to Fozzie. Crying at me ain't gonna do shiite. I'm pretty awesome, but I can't change the ship stats. Sorry.

More than 50% damage bonused drones would be crazy OP. Remeber, DDA are having a buff too. 5 super bonused drones would be instant death for any frigate. 5 normally bonused drones + 5 turrets will already be their doom, so why ask for even more ?

And a MWDing frigate or dessy is way above 125m signature, allowing bonused valkyries to be faster than the frigate, and to hit it fine. May the frigate shut it's MWD off, and both the light drones and your guns will tear it appart. Use a tracking link, and all your drones will track and hit fine in any circumstances.

As said, 35m3 drone bay allow for a lot of creative ways to use drones. 5 bonused drones + 5 tracking turrets are already a bane for any frigate. What you are asking for is prone to be massively OP.

At least give it a chance on the test server.

PS : mediocre damage and gallente hull in the same sentence made me lough. That cannot be serious. Look at Myrmidon or Vexor for "uncomon" drone bandwidth used with effectiveness. And if you say the Vexor or the myrm are bad, just reprocess yourself.

This world where small ships only shoot other small ships while not webbing them sure is cool.

Let's suppose you got your dream and it was a 15% per level drone damage bonus as well as a 10% per level drone tracking bonus. It would suck. Your destroyer would be novel but it would die in a fire vs. any hardened AF or other ranged destroyer. With two DDA II your DPS would not reach 300. 300 is normal for many assault frigates. 400 is possible on the Enyo. 400 - 600 DPS is where many Destroyers come in. You're going to throw 250ish DPS at them and win?

At the frigate and destroyer level combat is over in seconds. I take ships with less then 4k EHP and win on a regular basis because I can project over 400 DPS to 14km and 300 DPS to 20km. I've seen people supertank Thrashers. The struggle to hit anything past 6km. In the frigate world gank just about always wins out over tank. The only exception is when implants and boosts can come into play.

Drone boats at the small level are incredibly difficult to use. If you send in the drones too early - they can be killed at leisure and your DPS is greatly diminished. If you release them too late you could be deep in armour before they even come into play. Your suggestion pretty much limits the new Gallente Dessy to the first scenario. Send in the drones! That's the only DPS you get. I'd much rather have options. Send in the drones at 200 DPS and be right on their ass with your own 200 DPS in blasters. This dessy can have a web and that is huge. Engage at distance with rails. When the enemy commits send in the drones. Have a flight of ECM drones shut down the enemy while your hybrids inflict the pain.

The last point I'll make is the Amarr destroyer is the drones only supertanked option. It has four lows. The coercer has made that into an incredible tank for years. It also can suck a frigate dry in seconds. That again is huge and an option the Gallente destroyer can't copy unless it wants a poor man version of it.