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I haven't seen an answer to this yet:

Are in corp ganks still retribution-less?

There's simple and there's simple. What they're doing is removing convoluted mechanics in favour of complex ones. This is indeed a simplification since it goes for the “easy to learn, hard to master” goal rather than “memorise these fifty-eleven exceptions to what should be a very straight-forward rule”.

The S-flag (and indeed, all the flags) simplify matters because they provide clear and concise categories of actions and consequences with no overlap in functionality or rule set. A numerical increase in the number of flags does not mean it's more complicated since it removes the actual complication of not having clear distinctions between what flags do what.

Making gameplay more approachable is not, “for fact” a nerf.

Eh… travel route was massively shrunk by the new display, and the reason to make these ones large is obvious: because they are life-and-death timers that you want to be able to spot and process out of the corner of your eye.

Yes. Give an in corp ganker 24 more hours to wreak havoc. That makes perfect sense.

Any chance of reviewing high sec NPCs? The 'police' ones outlaws get are really chance based and annoying. The 'navy' ones FW people get are a total joke. I'd like it if outlaws got the joke NPCs instead with no tackle.

If you are unable to provide the retribution with the tools given to you, how is that my fault? Sigh...miners.

Eh.....?
(forum post 133980)


Wth....you've got the isk and the gall to take a T3 into combat, but can't afford to train for 5 days? Less if you only take it to IV, which is what I suggest if the training time butthurts that much.


Because in the end, I'm sorry, this is a game and needs to be balanced as such, not a straight-up RL simulator.

However, losing SP is the original intent, not providing "steal the T3" opportunities.

I laughed in my head when I read this. Cause you know what would have happened, right? Dec 8 would have come along and there would have been hundreds of people on the feedback thread asking where/how to turn it off....what do you mean I can't!?!


Because it was so low already, oh noes! /sarc
Also, if it's a reduction all across the board, then there is no real loss. It's just deflation (hint: opposite of inflation.) Our great player-driven, supply-and-demand market will adjust.


Then you haven't been f'ing reading. It has come and gone already, thanks for reheating it.
Your retort doesn't counter Nirnaeth's point that this is an MMO--do not complain if you can't do upper-level content (lvl 4 out of 5 possible) missions alone. Get friends. (I for one will never say "get an alt".)


Yes, because ransoming someone with a death threat isn't an 'evil' act and shouldn't hurt your security status....riiiight....

Caught. I may have just been reading dev posts only, being short of time at work. <.< Would like to see some sort of blue comment on the matter, though, having been someone who has suffered from a regularly-unreliable connection to the EVE servers. Yeah, I'm getting a new ISP, but I'm still paranoid.

Losing a ship because I'm stupid, or because someone successfully kills me within game mechanics is one thing, and a danger I accept implicitly by clicking Undock. But dying horribly because my internet is unreliable? No game I've ever played had that penalty. Hell, the closest thing I've seen was Ubisoft's always-on DRM, and that rightly raised holy hell from the gaming community.

This is a good point, if we're completely eliminating all hisec pvp we need to be thorough about it

Most online games have your character vanish after less than a minute. And that's those where you don't vanish immediately, which is fairly common.

As for sitting in 15 minutes, the concern isn't other players, but the NPCs you were fighting in the first place. Unless you can sit and survive 15 minutes worth of enemy DPS (impossible unless you're running a good cap stable tank, and that's ASSUMING that your modules don't deactivate on logout, which I have yet to hear one way or the other), you're dead. No outside player interaction required at all. No fun player-involved mechanics, just random stupid rat death. THAT is what the problem is.

I have no problem, zero, with staying in place under PvP interaction. If someone scans me down in a mission and attacks, I shouldn't be able to log off to avoid him. But NPC rats? Come on, now. There's no exploited mechanics here. If I'm logging off to avoid being killed, the rats are probably going to kill me within 60 seconds. Nevermind 15 minutes. The only thing this nerfs affects is people with poor/unreliable internet connections.

Edit:

So you're crying that you can't get easy kills on people that don't share your playstyle and would not be playing the game if highsec didn't exist? I don't think I'm ever going to understand your viewpoint. That'd be like me complaining about the talk of a POS revamp because I don't own a POS, and hating everyone who uses one.