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Stop forcing me to wear high heels

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Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#281 - 2012-09-10 19:42:11 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
Nikk Narrel wrote:
since they aren't in a capsuleer pod suspended in amniotic goo flying a spaceship, they should probably wear sensible shoes.
Just sayin....


So I shouldn't open a restaurant themed on the fact that all employees must wear high heels?

Oh, heavens no!

That would be most impractical.


  1. Behind the counter, it is often needed to carry awkward and heavy objects such as food containers and trays of items needing balance.

  2. Spills, be they water oil or anything liquid or paste like can be a footing hazard, and many feel less stable in high heels attempting to balance under ideal conditions.


For simple safety reasons, sensible footwear is a good idea for everyone not in a capsuleer pod surrounded by amniotic goo.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#282 - 2012-09-10 20:04:12 UTC
PinkKnife wrote:
Yes, women do graduate college at higher rates, yet despite this, they are still only a fraction of managerial positions, and they still make 70% of what men do even accounting for experience and education.


I've got some news for you. That "70%" statistic (and every incarnation thereof; 50/100, 80/100, etc etc depending on which feminist you talk to and just how zany and fanatic she is) has been in circulation since the late 70's/early 80's. Isn't it strange how it hasn't changed in over 30 years? And isn't it strange how there's no actual real data on it; no government studies or census statistics on it, no actual official anything... just a random number that gets floated about feminist echo-chambers and cited ad nasaeum in "gender studies" classes? No, it's actually not strange, because the statistic was bullshit then, has continued to be bullshit for 30 years, and is still bullshit now. The adjusted wage gap (ie, when you take into account relevant things such as field worked in, amount of hours worked, level of education achieved, willingness to work overtime, willingness to work while sick, willingness to put family second, etc etc) is something like 5 cents. And in some situations (ie, part time labor), women earn more than men. For example, in many cities across the US, single, childless women in their 20's earn 10% more than single, childless men in their 20's.

PinkKnife wrote:
Please stop trying to bash women and feminist for something we aren't guilty of. Feminists don't hate men, they just want to be treated equally, and be able to walk home at night without someone blaming their **** on how they were dressed or how they look.


Confirming that women have it so bad that they can't even walk home at night without some random person blaming them for ****.

PinkKnife wrote:
The reason laws protecting women and other minorities is because they are largely targeted because of who they are, and thus deserving of extra protections to counter that.


Wait, are you talking about how 75% of the victims of violent crime are men? Is that what you mean by women needing extra protection such as VAWA... because they are targeted for crime....?

PinkKnife wrote:
Regarding this issue, The gaming industry is largely masculine, thus most female aspects tend to be the stereotypical ones.


Did you ever notice how the male aspects also tend to be... stereotypical ones? But nobody's eyes are leaking over that one. Roll

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#283 - 2012-09-10 20:19:22 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Did you ever notice how the male aspects also tend to be... stereotypical ones? But nobody's eyes are leaking over that one. Roll

If only we had the options to create male avatars with physical characteristics more in line with expectations regarding intelligence and a lifestyle of contemplative thought....

Meh, maybe in the future we can pick our physical appearance the same way we choose our socks.

Many of us men will probably be mismatched, but having vulcan eyebrows would totally rock.

Just say no to high heels unless you are suspended in a capsuleer pod filled with amniotic goo!
Isabel Midnight
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#284 - 2012-09-10 20:56:56 UTC
Teenage girls suffer far worse with body issues than teenage boys. Anorexia , bulimia the list goes on. Don't try and tell me these things affect men just as much as they do women because they do not.
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#285 - 2012-09-10 21:23:20 UTC
Isabel Midnight wrote:
Teenage girls suffer far worse with body issues than teenage boys. Anorexia , bulimia the list goes on. Don't try and tell me these things affect men just as much as they do women because they do not.

How is any of that relevant?

Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#286 - 2012-09-10 21:30:22 UTC
Isabel Midnight wrote:
Teenage girls suffer far worse with body issues than teenage boys. Anorexia , bulimia the list goes on. Don't try and tell me these things affect men just as much as they do women because they do not.


The incidence of anorexia and bulimia amongst teenaged boys is indeed rising. Males also commit suicide at much higher rates than females do. The average suicide ratio between men:women is 4:1, but at some points in the life span it can be as high as 10:1 (senior years) and 6:1 (during the teenage years). In fact, being male is an independent risk factor for suicide throughout the entire lifespan, starting at puberty. However, the "suicide gap" gets much less attention than the "anorexia gap"... anorexia being responsible for 150 female deaths per year, and suicide being responsible for over 30,000 male deaths per year.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#287 - 2012-09-10 21:31:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Xuixien
Astroniomix wrote:
Isabel Midnight wrote:
Teenage girls suffer far worse with body issues than teenage boys. Anorexia , bulimia the list goes on. Don't try and tell me these things affect men just as much as they do women because they do not.

How is any of that relevant?



It's not.

This is the part where the feminist tries to cite examples of how women have it worse than men in an effort to validate the "women are oppressed" premise.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Isabel Midnight
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#288 - 2012-09-10 21:43:55 UTC
It's relevant to all the dudes in here crying about how muscle men threaten their body image.
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#289 - 2012-09-10 21:52:44 UTC
Isabel Midnight wrote:
It's relevant to all the dudes in here crying about how muscle men threaten their body image.

Threaten?

Oh my, that would be incorrect.

My body image is superior to that of my avatar. It may never be featured in any fashion magazines, but, like many I possess a beauty that cannot be expressed by mere physical 'ideals'.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#290 - 2012-09-10 21:54:04 UTC
Posting to confirm that high heels in video games give women "body image issues". Lol

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#291 - 2012-09-10 23:15:59 UTC
Post on your main, feminist coward.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist

Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#292 - 2012-09-11 01:15:22 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
Post on your main, feminist coward.

Good find.

Incidentally, I hate my browser.
Katie Frost
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#293 - 2012-09-11 05:49:10 UTC
The OP and this ******** thread should be reported and shut down for violating rules of conduct, namely:

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Emphasised sections are bolded.

The OP has directly insulted several posters that have offered constructive feedback to the drivel she wrote up in her hate-filled original post. OP continued to sustain accusing and insulting other posters of hating women, even after her incorrect use of the term "misogyny" had been pointed out several times. Lastly, it is clear that the argument(?) offered in the original post was presented and worded in such a way as to deliberately anger and provoke other members of the community.

TL;DR Get rid of this intellectually challenged lesbo and her equally moronic thread... oh I do love the hypocrisy too.
Elshar Khandar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#294 - 2012-09-11 09:11:40 UTC
@Isabel Midnight and all of her alts. Please answer the following question. Your refusal to answer this on the third attempt will prove to all and sundry that you are well aware that your arguments are illogical, your definition of misogyny is flawed and your thread is pure troll.

"Ok, just for intellectual curiosity lets, hypothetically, say that your definition of misogyny is correct (which in reality it isn't).

I am offended by your insults. I find them offensive to my race and gender. By your own definition that makes you a racist and a misandrist because whether you intend it or not that is the way I'm interpreting your words.

So, do you accept that you're a misandrist and a racist?"
Isabel Midnight
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#295 - 2012-09-11 11:26:47 UTC
I guess I should have expected this level of abuse from a bunch of internet males. Girl want's change to MY video game?? *smashes chest and jumps up and down* NEVER I WILL NOT ALLOW IT THIS MAN GAME
Elshar Khandar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#296 - 2012-09-11 11:41:57 UTC
Isabel Midnight wrote:
I guess I should have expected this level of abuse from a bunch of internet males. Girl want's change to MY video game?? *smashes chest and jumps up and down* NEVER I WILL NOT ALLOW IT THIS MAN GAME


Are you refusing to answer my previous question?
Isabel Midnight
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#297 - 2012-09-11 11:45:16 UTC
Misandry isn't a real concept so no I can't be that. Accusing me of being a racist is absurd. You're flailing around trying to find anything that will stick to me.

Just accept the original point that high heels only is not cool and something CCP need to fix to bring this game into 2012...
Elshar Khandar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#298 - 2012-09-11 11:49:41 UTC
Isabel Midnight wrote:
Misandry isn't a real concept so no I can't be that. Accusing me of being a racist is absurd. You're flailing around trying to find anything that will stick to me.

Just accept the original point that high heels only is not cool and something CCP need to fix to bring this game into 2012...


You're being absurd. It either works both ways or not at all.

You're either a bigot or misogyny requires intent.

I'm reporting this thread now because it's become obvious that you're just trolling.
Isabel Midnight
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#299 - 2012-09-11 11:58:16 UTC
Misandry isn't a real concept because it requires a level of privileged to oppress someone. The under priviledged(women) cannot oppress the over privileged. It just does not have the same effect. It's like the bullied kid on the playground calling one of their attackers a mean name. The attacker can just laugh it off because they have so much real power over the victim.
Isphirel
State War Academy
Caldari State
#300 - 2012-09-11 12:05:47 UTC
Elshar Khandar wrote:
Isabel Midnight wrote:
Misandry isn't a real concept so no I can't be that. Accusing me of being a racist is absurd. You're flailing around trying to find anything that will stick to me.

Just accept the original point that high heels only is not cool and something CCP need to fix to bring this game into 2012...


You're being absurd. It either works both ways or not at all.

You're either a bigot or misogyny requires intent.

I'm reporting this thread now because it's become obvious that you're just trolling.


It doesn't work both ways because misogyny is a symptom of an societal imbalance. Imbalances don't work both ways, that's the entire point.