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Stop forcing me to wear high heels

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Elshar Khandar
Amarr Empire
#301 - 2012-09-11 12:08:34 UTC
I've reported this thread. You're just trolling.

I don't mind debating things with people who are willing to actually logically debate. You're not. You just want to claim inflamatory things in order to get an emotional response out of people.

That's the definition of trolling. Trolling is against the forum rules which is why I've reported this thread.
State War Academy
Caldari State
#302 - 2012-09-11 12:19:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Isphirel
Elshar Khandar wrote:
I've reported this thread. You're just trolling.

I'm all for debate, but not every topic can be reduced to a small set of symmetrical, logical arguments. Misogyny is a complex issue that is reflecting society at large in many nuanced ways. If you try to draft up an argument that revolves around a simplistic strawman that omits that complexity, you're necessarily losing all of the important nuance and really saying nothing.

Amazingly enough, problems that affect real people rather than internet spaceships don't exist in a vacuum.
Isabel Midnight
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#303 - 2012-09-11 12:20:27 UTC
Phase 2 of a misogynist addressing women's concerns : dismissal
Elshar Khandar
Amarr Empire
#304 - 2012-09-11 12:37:20 UTC
I don't care whether there are only high heals in the game. There is no avatar interaction so it doesn't actually matter.

What I do care about is your claim that all men who disagree with you are misogynistic. This simply isn't true.

You're claiming that anyone who you say is misogynistic is misogynistic irrespective of whether they hate, dislike or distrust women in general. You're saying that intent has nothing to do with it.

However, when the tables are turned you claim that you cannot be branded as anything by anyone because for you (and I presume all women, according to you) the same rules don't apply. When I brand you as a man-hater because I say that you're expressing genuine vitriol towards all men you claim that this isn't the case with a purile, completely out of date argument because you simply won't agree with equality. In this instance though, you are creating an inequality towards men. You're claiming that women have the right to call men sexist haters but men have no rights whatsoever to call women sexist haters. So you're oppressing men.

So according to you, one set of rules controlled entirely by women apply to men and yet the rules which apply to women are also controlled by women, when discussing sexism.

That makes men the oppressed ones. Your very distinction makes you, women, the oppressor, not men.

But all this is immaterial. This is the featues and ideas forum, not the trolling forum. If you really wanted to push your suggestion you wouldn't have started this ludicrous debate. You're simply trolling, as has been stated by many people throughout this thread.
Isabel Midnight
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#305 - 2012-09-11 12:45:07 UTC
You came in and started this debate because you were angry someone would dare call men out on their bullshit. Leave and this isn't a debate. I think you should at this point you are just wildly grasping at straws and making a fool of yourself.
ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#306 - 2012-09-11 12:54:04 UTC

I think the point has been made clearly, if not constructively here.

If you would like to suggest that the Art team provides a flat bottomed alternative then please do so, but this debate started abrassively and has continued as such.

Can I please remind everyone to post constructively and avoid being disrespectful to your fellow forum goers, and CCP staff members.

Thanks and fly safe!

[b]ISD Suvetar Captain/Commando Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department[/b]