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Any tips for getting a frightened "My shiny ship" carebear to pvp?

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Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#81 - 2012-09-07 18:33:41 UTC
Ops friend needs to lose that ship to a good gank.

it'll be good for him!
ctx2007
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#82 - 2012-09-07 19:00:19 UTC
Get him to make a jumpclone without implants and give him the rifters...... you never know.

You only realise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.
Cede Forster
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#83 - 2012-09-07 19:43:20 UTC
just make him do some pvp, he will get around, if not, blow him up, make a picture, post it here
Jonni Favorite
Militant Industrialists LLC
Militant Consortium
#84 - 2012-09-07 21:10:20 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Quote:
You can give me some therapy.. =(


Me too, I like my flagships, all of them. I don't buy ships to blow them up. Blowing up Is stupid, because i would have to buy another one, and another one, and another... Lol


That's why you buy 3 at a time and go with Dio!
Minmatar Citizen 76959458561
Doomheim
#85 - 2012-09-07 21:48:45 UTC
Just explain its only a game only pixels and bet him a few mill he will enjoy it make a bet out of it not win or lose more bet he will have fun
Deena Amaj
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2012-09-07 21:50:56 UTC
Metal Icarus wrote:
Ops friend needs to lose that ship to a good gank.

it'll be good for him!



xD Sounds like loosin' virginity !

confirthisposmed

I'm probably typing on a Tablet too, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them.
Myxx
The Scope
#87 - 2012-09-07 22:35:45 UTC
I used to be like that, but then I got so used to having people be very angry with me over a long period of time that I regularly just don't care about if i redock again. In essence, it really only can be broken with time and outright exposure to extreme risk and hazards. Once comfortable with it, fighting becomes as easy and natural as breathing.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#88 - 2012-09-07 22:51:14 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Contract 20 Rifters to him with a load of cheap fittings. Tell him to get them all blown up by next week or you'll gank his stupid ship.


iam in thats sounds fun Lol
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#89 - 2012-09-07 23:58:22 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:
Contract 20 Rifters to him with a load of cheap fittings. Tell him to get them all blown up by next week or you'll gank his stupid ship.

iam in thats sounds fun Lol

If he flies in highsec maybe he'll be ganked on a gate.... otherwise might be hard if he's not in a wardec situation.

Highsec pvp, you know :)

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Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#90 - 2012-09-08 01:43:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Abel Merkabah
Edit - self censor...it was just bad.

James315 for CSM 8!
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#91 - 2012-09-08 02:45:59 UTC
make him watch alliance tournaments. they made me want to pvp more.
Deena Amaj
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#92 - 2012-09-08 12:37:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Deena Amaj
Herping yourDerp wrote:
make him watch alliance tournaments. they made me want to pvp more.



He did watch some two, should have been X and XI. 11 was the latest, or not? I am not sure.

Unfortunately it was too complicated, very fast-paced and of course professional commentating (ymmv here) that was in fast english + eve jargon. I have the feeling it was counterproductive in terms of sparking some interests.

I already explained that it was kind of like WoW Arena, where you can't really consider that like "real pvp" because to a point, all is staged, everybody using the most expensive and/or Flavor-Flave-of-the-Month setups (ASBs anyone?) and much more.

It was entertaining for him, of course.

confirthisposmed

I'm probably typing on a Tablet too, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them.
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
#93 - 2012-09-08 15:32:48 UTC
Give him some t1 cruisers and ideas for fits, then let him fight you. At least then he knows he isn't going to get embarrassed, podded, or even have a killmail if you fight to structure only.
Merovee
Gorthaur Legion
Imperium Mordor
#94 - 2012-09-08 15:50:34 UTC
He needs to find an enemy, someone to pick on. Your enemies define who you are in life and in gaming a reason for playing. You could hire him to harass someone you don't like and maybe go down the path of mercenary.You have to be careful he doesn't quit playing because of some kind of betrayal action you might inflict on him by being a jerk. Blink

Empire, the next new world order.
Mixu Paatelainen
Eve Refinery
#95 - 2012-09-08 16:12:32 UTC
Block him, chalk up the loss of a friend to experience and move on. He sounds unrescuable.
Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#96 - 2012-09-09 01:38:48 UTC
To the OP, sounds like he wants no part of the multiplayer aspect of EVE. As a friend, you kinda have to accept that as much as it may suck (I have friends who are the same).

The only thing you can possibly try to change this is to have him fit a cloaky ship and follow you in a small gang into pvp. Have him be soley a spectator. Hopefully, if you get some good fights, he feels left out looking in from the outside and changes his mind.

But of course, you have to get him in a cloak ship..

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
Nostradamouse Riraille
S.M.U.G.G.L.E.
#97 - 2012-09-09 03:05:02 UTC
Buy him rifters. make him fly 'em and tell him to lose every single one of them to another player withing the next week.
Vertinox
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#98 - 2012-09-09 03:34:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Vertinox
Ajit Kumar Bhattacharya wrote:
Deena Amaj wrote:
Another thread reminded me to ask this. Pirate

Uh yeah.

I happen to have a long time buddy from WoW times. He's all cool and stuff and is playing Eve too. I don't have to worry about him reading this since he doesn't speak english, but who cares. :P I want to help him get a bit more of Eve, but I am a bit stuck at the moment.

Whatever. He has the "My shiny ship" syndrome as somebody called it so, where people give their ships names and act like its a flagship and don't want to lose. Additionally, if he/she were to lose that ship, they'd pretty much quit Eve with a single fingersnip.

The other thing is that he does so little things with the actual ships too. So basically, you'll see them fully fitted and stuff like but doing nothing but gathering dust as the station. Not to mention the hours-long studies of staring at it and hearing all these things about ship aestetics (spelling). ~_~ Guess that's what you get for an X3 player flying indestructable shiny ships or whatever ;D.


I said to him that I would even provide throwaway T1 ships whilst joining the 0.0 corp for action as any player can pull up some fun-to-play tactics without worry with them - yet he still refuses.


I know there are certain PVE'er carebears, etc, who do not like PVP and do not need to be forced to it as it is their decision, but I want to know if there some way to break the ice after all. Already tried several "therapies" but I have the feeling this is a tough patient, heh.
I've tried it slow too, but he's still not considering to even hit undock with a damn rookie ship, let alone losing that clone.


I'm quite certain there are a few veterant players who had to put up with this too. Please share your thoughts.
Thanks.


Who's paying for his account? Are you paying for it? If not then let him play his game the way he wants to play it, it's his money that he is paying for that account with and he has every right to enjoy his game however he wants. Some people just don't like to undock, and you need to respect peoples recreational preferences. Maybe his endgame is simply collecting well-fitted ships. Trying to force a certain playstyle "down his throat" is just going to generate resentment on some level, perhaps to the point of him unsubbing or even dropping you as a friend.

In my own life if someone were to try to mess with how I play my game, be it EvE, tic-tac-toe, whatever, I'd tell them to go fk themselves, this is MY game, go play your own.



^This.

If you aren't paying his monthly bill, then let him sit and spin ships all day while docked. Its his right.
Abditus Cularius
Clancularius Industries
#99 - 2012-09-09 06:10:08 UTC
When something is appealing and fun to a person, you don't have to convince them to try it.

When it isn't, you're just playing missionary to your particular view of fun.