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You are R E T A R D E D. Super capital is not a SOLO pvp ship. Its a fleet support ship. When they were created and added to the game all super capitals were meant to be fleet support ships if you have an idea of solo PVP whit a Super Capital you are ********.

SOLO PVP and RATTING is not what SC and Titan are meant for and after this patch they will be unable to do that. This will also end the SC blob warfare.

The 2 of you post most stupid and irrelevant arguments and comments possible. Its fun to watch you cry knowing that those changes are FINAL and that Super Capitals are going to become a useless pile of crap metal against sub capital ships. They will finally need sub capital ships to defend them against other sub capital ships.

Well i playing in EVE for fun if game not satysfying me i change the game its not problem) ALL games must bring FUN!!!! and im not stupid , stupid you if you made a serious problem for all of it and propose to restrict all cap

Go ahead and leave. This game is no FUN because of people like you who want to get in to a 20B ship and want it to be a ship that cant die and can kill everything there is and can go 1v50.

Leave you wont be missed if you truly loved this game you would be oke whit these changes you are useless in pvp and only kills you can get is if you go SC v T1 Frigate. You are pathetic and we dont need people like you that support BLOB Warfare you dont deserve 0.0 space or the ship you are flying.

Leave think CCP wont care if 1% leave think they care more if 99% leave because these changes were not implemented there are so many people that dont want to be part of big stupid alliances lead by stupid, greedy and arrogant people like Raiden, Goons, WN., Solar. etc.. but what to form own alliance and make a push in to 0.0 but they cant because they get blobed by retards like you.

Leave the game its going to be much more fun. If you consider having a solo ship that really isnt a solo ship to be unkillable and be able to kill anything in the game you are stupid and should go play the game all defunct people play simply head over to Blizzard they will point you in the direction. They made a game just for people like you.

You plain stupid...

Today on SISI CCP Habakkuk clearly stated that Fighter nerf stays since this is where SC's draw the most of their anti sub capital power considering Fighters can hit anything down to a Frig. So the Fighter nerf stays meaning SC will no longer be able to hit anything bellow an Target Painted BS.

The point is that there are many scenarios where super capital pilots will unjustly die. If the ship wasn't going to die, it shouldn't die. You seem to be arguing that you don't agree with the original premise of my post, that "if the enemy has you trapped in an aggressed log, you should die." If they do not have you trapped, you should not die. How is this an unreasonable or complicated change to the aggression rules?

It gives the enemy plenty of time to come ensure that they have you permanently trapped. As I've stated in other posts, this very closely approximates the original intention of the aggressed logging rules. The current proposition oversteps the rules and only serves to punish rather than balance.

Gratz for taking the time to spell it out, tought anyone with two brain cells to rub together would have already realized how hollow the "SC are expensives, they should'nt die to lone hictors!" argument is.

@FHM

normally I wouldn't speak in a foul mannor on a forum post but you have got to be the most ******* ******** person i've seen post in this thread PERIOD!

supercarriers are not a ******* support ship they are like the titan and dread MASSIVE ******* DPS SHIPS the super carrier is a ship that does dmg with drones, the titan is a ship that has the highest dps in the game and has a ultimate weapon to do a massive burst of dmg, and the dread was supposed to be MASSIVE dps gunboat - the incomming changes will put their role back into check - DO NOT EVER CALL A SUPER CARRIER A SUPPORT SHIP AGAIN YOU ******** DUMBASS

a carrier is a support ship, a falcon is a support ship, a curse is a support ship, those are all support ships, ****.

titans should not be able to hit anything sub battleship and even then hardly at all, so yes incomming nerfs in that respect all fine and dandy, but taking away drones from a ******* drone boat? and only giving it max 25 fighters OR bombers?

I understand the point of making so you can defang a super but holy **** a 10 man fleet can defang a carrier in less than 30 seconds and then a 200 mill fleet kills a 15 billion dollar ship, how the **** is that fair? especially if they take a month and a half to build - your lack of intelligence is absolutely enlightening.

I remember when I was in 9th grade too but god damn.

titans and supercarriers should not be able to be killed by 10 man fleets, (subcaps) i dont even think 20 man fleets should be able to - it's a capital ship you are supposed to run away from it - and I really dont care if it's unfair to smaller alliances, they can get on the same page as everyone else there is always small alliances to pick on go **** them up and steal their **** grow larger as a alliance then take on the biggest alliance in eve.

what you are saying is that a 50 man alliance should be able to take a system from Raiden alliance because YOU WANT subcaps to kill a supercarrier that took a month to build in 5 minutes, and you want to do it with a 10 man fleet and not lose a single ship LOL you so mad bro.

it's so easy to kill a super carrier as it is now lol all you have to do is get a hic point on it with 10-20 high dps ships and 4 minutes later POP, anyone can do it - most alliances take 15-20 minutes to respond to a carrier tackle anyway, especially if you catch a super ratting - anyone who thinks otherwise doesnt live in null sec, or doesnt have supers in their alliance - it's plain and simple.

super carriers are easy enough to kill - now should they be abe to hold 5 million drones in their bay? hell no!

but the best super carrier pilots dont hold that many drones in their bay anyway, most just have an assortment of ecm drones a set of lights mediums and heavies and maybe sentries for pos shooting + 20 fighters and bombers.

IF a super carrier is using it's drones 1 of 2 situations has occured. 1) you're a ******** noob alliance roaming into a big boy system and you lack the skill to even warp away LMAO 2) they are DESPERATELY trying to break 3 or more hic tackles.

as it stands now if you tackle a carrier and a super warps in to help it, IT WONT HAVE RR on it only fail baddies put rr on a super, it'll be there to either use ecm on you or try to pew pew - but most pvp ships can out run any drone from a super cap LOL which makes me think you are even more fail.

if you can't kill a supercarrier you are just terrible at pvp - go back to high sec scrub

i can prolly do a search on battleclinic to show you 400+ kill mails within the last 3 months of supers being killed with less than 30 ships, but i'm not gonna spoon feed you l2play spaceships then come post on the big boy forums.

any ship no matter what class should not be held in place for hours after being logged off.

if some one points a ship just after DT he then logs they can hold it their until DT the next day.

When I grow up, I want to become a ~leet pvper~ like this.