EVE General Discussion

Another thread reminded me to ask this.

Uh yeah.

I happen to have a long time buddy from WoW times. He's all cool and stuff and is playing Eve too. I don't have to worry about him reading this since he doesn't speak english, but who cares. :P I want to help him get a bit more of Eve, but I am a bit stuck at the moment.

Whatever. He has the "My shiny ship" syndrome as somebody called it so, where people give their ships names and act like its a flagship and don't want to lose. Additionally, if he/she were to lose that ship, they'd pretty much quit Eve with a single fingersnip.

The other thing is that he does so little things with the actual ships too. So basically, you'll see them fully fitted and stuff like but doing nothing but gathering dust as the station. Not to mention the hours-long studies of staring at it and hearing all these things about ship aestetics (spelling). ~_~ Guess that's what you get for an X3 player flying indestructable shiny ships or whatever ;D.


I said to him that I would even provide throwaway T1 ships whilst joining the 0.0 corp for action as any player can pull up some fun-to-play tactics without worry with them - yet he still refuses.


I know there are certain PVE'er carebears, etc, who do not like PVP and do not need to be forced to it as it is their decision, but I want to know if there some way to break the ice after all. Already tried several "therapies" but I have the feeling this is a tough patient, heh.
I've tried it slow too, but he's still not considering to even hit undock with a damn rookie ship, let alone losing that clone.


I'm quite certain there are a few veterant players who had to put up with this too. Please share your thoughts.
Thanks.

You can give me some therapy.. =(

Contract 20 Rifters to him with a load of cheap fittings. Tell him to get them all blown up by next week or you'll gank his stupid ship.

Me too, I like my flagships, all of them. I don't buy ships to blow them up. Blowing up Is stupid, because i would have to buy another one, and another one, and another...

Excellent strategy. The only thing to add would be to make sure you blow up his shiney ship whether he makes good on losing the 20 Rifters or not.

It's for his own good, as ship loss is inevitable in this game (unless you never undock).

My first instinct was to post what James 315 did, so instead I'll try a different idea. :)

Get him to come to you in a "safe spot" somewhere and test your tank for you. Tell him you want to see how well your armor repair works or how cap stable it is or some such nonsense. Offer to pay for his ammo if need be.

Then after a few of those, see if he'll do a mock duel with you - agree to stop at structure or something suitably honorable with no permanent loss.

Or, try a T1 frigate tournament in your corp. That always gets the non-pvp, but semi-pvp-curious types interested when there is a goal and some competition to be had, but no loss of pride when you assplode.

Failing all of that, yeah, blow him up yourself :)

Well, it's easy.

You need to tell him that you need his help.

Appeal to his need to be your friend. "Man, I REALLY NEED YOU to help me move this industrial freighter full of 100B ISK in stuff in Low/Null sec, you're the only person I can trust with this. Please help me!"

And then tell him you need him to scout, and make sure you have a mock fight ready setup with another friend that Mr uberCarebear can win in his crap fit scout ship.

Then if he wins the fight and doesn't get the PVP bug, then nothing will.

100% of all EVE players suffer from PvP phobia they just dont admit it which is why


1. Blobs exist
2. Players only wardec weaker corps/alliances
3. Nobody ever fights ever unless they are certain that they are going to win.


Tell him to join a highsec baddass merc corp then he can blob month old retriever pilots all day.


Hope that helps :)

Hehe, okay I see where everybody is going with this.

I doubt I should blow him up -- but the OMG BRO, I NEED YOUR HELP, LIKE RIGHT NOW! seems to be a good start. In fact, that is a good idea to start with. Thanks.



edit:

he is also in a more or less dead corp nobody is insisting to wardec. While that may be cool for pve'ers, he is not doing anything fancy in the PVE area to even enjoy that either. :-/

RvB would like to have a word with you.