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Thank god you arent a dev this would be one ****** game. They are BALANCING these ships to a point that is needed.

Should Super Carriers be allowed to dock here is the way to do it proper. Since this is giving them a unbelivable advantage the process should be the following.

Only 4 SC's can dock to a station and they dock in a way they are visible outside of station but not targetable. If station is put in to a reinforced mode the ship can no longer be undocked and after stations shield reinforcement is down you can destroy the docked super carrier.

Only way to make it fare if allowing them to dock.


And again we are back to point where stupid people think just cuss they trained 3 months more just in one direction and paid 20bil for a ship they deserve a ultimate solo and fleet ship that cannot be killed and can kill anything there is.

Stupid idots...

this thread has a large mix of ideas from many stand points i hope ccp have read most of this mammoth thread and come up with some new ideas on the subject of capital rebalance.

all the changes are subject to change which is i hope noted by all.

u mad bro?

OMG shut up dude...

Not really as i am personally in market for an Aeon my self. But these ships need to serve their true roles and not be a solution to every fight. They should be totally useless against sub capitals. That's why i have a corporation and an alliance for me to help them and for them to help me. Mutual defense they keep other sub capitals off me while i grind the enemy super capitals we all fight on our level makes no sense that 100 of us in a 1000 man alliance put 100 supers on the field and kill 1000 sub capitals ships in few min and we are done.

That is exactly what is happening now. I want fights that include all my corp and alliance mates. I want fleet fights where i try to get enemy triage carriers to brake while my sub capital buddies keep me safe from any hictors or sub capital threats.

I have no interest in ratting in my super carrier. I am in subcapital making isk for it before i jump in to it i will make sure its fitted properly whit END FIT on it and that i have a slave clone whit at a clone upgraded to at least 30% more than i need.

Once in the ship i am bound to it and the help of my corpmates. I have no intention to rat in it since i am bound to this fully properly fitted ship i already have all that i need.

From the day i first **** in to an Aeon till the day i loose it i want to be fighting whit it not ratting or making stupid videos. I want to be rdy at any time should my alliance roaming gang find a carrier or two doing sanctums or sleeping on the station undock i want to be rdy to jump to them help them and leave the field knowing i had them to defend me.

This would also reduce the number of re tar ded, stupid and arrogant super capital pliots in corporations.

kill 1000 sub capitals ships in few min
if this was the case then test and goons will be a non factor in sov holding 0.0.

you are having a wet dreaming if you think this is possible with 100 super caps in few minutes

few min can mean 3 ore more... so 3 or 50 or 500.. anyways. If you bring 100 super carriers to a field against 1000 subcapitals whats gonna happen is 900 of subcapital ships will have their game client crash it will take you only few min to mop up the rest of them... Super capitals wont have their client crash meaning they will be there dealing full on DPS on empty ships.

If you find this fun you are stupid.

Good luck..

Again you forget these ships are 1st meant to be extra rare. Second they serve their role as killing enemy carriers that may be used as DPS ships or Triage Logistic carriers and in the end killing opponents super capital ships that may appear on field to assist their own sub capital fleet.

If you want to let super capitals have offensive ability against subcapital ships then they need to do reduced damage to them, they need to take 5min to lock these ships.

Also this is not WoW where everything is unbalanced. These ships need to be balanced and need their own role and that is not killing sub capital ships.

Titans were created to move big fleets from A to B the fact they have a DD and guns is just a small bonus to help and take out the most crucial capital ship opponent fielded.

Super Carriers were created to support friendly Titans while being there to help sub capital ship kill a Titan not help a sub capital fleet kill another sub capital fleet. Thats just plain stupid.

My Suggestions:


1) 22.5m in drone skills + another 20M in SC specific skills to not be able to use drones on my MS? If you take drones away from SC's then give back drone skills if the player wants to have them returned. Done through the petition process.

2) To get some real feedback from players who are experienced in the use of SC's open a thread that only Titan and SC pilots can post in. Verified through API. All that is happening in this thread is little testies and goons bleating against SC's because the chief goon Mitiani has told them too.

3) SC's and Titans were brought into the game because BS and carriers were too powerfull. Every time you bring a new ship class in the same thing happens. Noobs whine and complain that it isn't fair etc etc etc. Visa vis the intrduction of the HIC. Well if titans and SC's are too powerfull then bring in something designed to kill them. A death Star if you will. Price it at like 250B to build. Make it so 10 people have to be skilled and online to use it. And give it a death star type weapon. Every 10m it can pop a SC or a titan etc etc.