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When will daily downtime end?
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Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-08-06 10:42:04 UTC
As an Australian player, the daily shutdown occurs a few hours after I come home from work. It's only 20-30 mins, but as a ninja salvager / looter, it really disrupts my EVE career as mission runners tend to log off half an hour before shutdown, and don't come back on until half an hour after the server is back online. And then it takes some more time for mission runners to start cycling through their missions and create some wrecks.

So as a ninja, I'm looking at an overall downtime of 90+ minutes. Remember that this is my free time after work. What should be a 3-hour joyfest of tears, is now reduced to an hour, simply because of the daily shutdown. Think of all those potential tears going to waste. :(
Luis Graca
#2 - 2012-08-06 10:43:08 UTC
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Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-08-06 10:44:18 UTC
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Rakael Kateloda
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-08-06 10:47:27 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
mission runners tend to log off half an hour before shutdown, and don't come back on until half an hour after the server is back online.


I understand the first part, but why so long for the second part? I'm mostly a mission runner as well and I usually time my last mission to end about 15 minutes before the shutdown (with looting - granted, salvaging only from the 'big guys'), and I'm usually back in action in less than 10 minutes after the shutdown. Unless there is an update or something, in most cases the servers are back 5-6 minutes after, give or take a few...
Kaivar Lancer
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-08-06 10:49:41 UTC
Rakael Kateloda wrote:

I understand the first part, but why so long for the second part? I'm mostly a mission runner as well and I usually time my last mission to end about 15 minutes before the shutdown (with looting - granted, salvaging only from the 'big guys'), and I'm usually back in action in less than 10 minutes after the shutdown. Unless there is an update or something, in most cases the servers are back 5-6 minutes after, give or take a few...


I'm just basing the second part on my own behaviour. I don't always log right back into the game after shutdown. Alot of people use it as a break to get things done and don't come back immediatelly.
s1n1ster m1n1ster
Brutor Tribe
#6 - 2012-08-06 10:51:12 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
As an Australian player, the daily shutdown occurs a few hours after I come home from work. It's only 20-30 mins, but as a ninja salvager / looter, it really disrupts my EVE career as mission runners tend to log off half an hour before shutdown, and don't come back on until half an hour after the server is back online. And then it takes some more time for mission runners to start cycling through their missions and create some wrecks.

So as a ninja, I'm looking at an overall downtime of 90+ minutes. Remember that this is my free time after work. What should be a 3-hour joyfest of tears, is now reduced to an hour, simply because of the daily shutdown. Think of all those potential tears going to waste. :(



I have lived in australia for a while and know how you feel on the other hand there is not much you can do about it!

b4 you ask

-no they wont change the downtime schedule to suit australia timezone, simple reason during downtime people are actually working and they wont move it to a time where in London where the servers are they have to work at night

- downtime is required for maintenance even though their dream is to make that happen while server is online its a long way away to be able to do that


solution

there isn't any unless you change country im afraid.
Rakael Kateloda
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-08-06 10:51:55 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
Rakael Kateloda wrote:

I understand the first part, but why so long for the second part? I'm mostly a mission runner as well and I usually time my last mission to end about 15 minutes before the shutdown (with looting - granted, salvaging only from the 'big guys'), and I'm usually back in action in less than 10 minutes after the shutdown. Unless there is an update or something, in most cases the servers are back 5-6 minutes after, give or take a few...


I'm just basing the second part on my own behaviour. I don't always log right back into the game after shutdown. Alot of people use it as a break to get things done and don't come back immediatelly.


Ah ok gotcha. I thought I was missing something in the game mechanics or related to mission runners.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-08-06 10:55:04 UTC
If i recall, it was one of their long term goals to eliminate daily downtime completely

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baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#9 - 2012-08-06 10:57:43 UTC
Kaivar Lancer wrote:
As an Australian player, the daily shutdown occurs a few hours after I come home from work. It's only 20-30 mins, but as a ninja salvager / looter, it really disrupts my EVE career as mission runners tend to log off half an hour before shutdown, and don't come back on until half an hour after the server is back online. And then it takes some more time for mission runners to start cycling through their missions and create some wrecks.

So as a ninja, I'm looking at an overall downtime of 90+ minutes. Remember that this is my free time after work. What should be a 3-hour joyfest of tears, is now reduced to an hour, simply because of the daily shutdown. Think of all those potential tears going to waste. :(


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Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#10 - 2012-08-06 11:00:16 UTC
20 minutes each day is better than like other games I've heard about where they have to take a whole day out to clean up the server and database. EVE's downtime has been shortened considerably over the past few years, sometimes it's barely 10 minutes.

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Janet Patton
Brony Express
#11 - 2012-08-06 11:00:37 UTC
I wonder why they can't stagger it and maybe do it every other day? Is it just how EVE was designed at the core level?

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Noriko Mai
#12 - 2012-08-06 11:02:42 UTC
Doesn't it end every day?

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#13 - 2012-08-06 11:13:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Mara Rinn
baltec1 wrote:
Thats the price you pay for living in the land of OZ. Well that and all the deadly animals like the dropbear.


And the hoopsnake, and the glassfish.

But back on topic, the devs have only got about 4-7minutes worth of stuff left to get rid of before downtime is gone altogether. Most of that time is shutdown and startup. It turns out the remaining tasks take a very short period of time: the most important of these appears to be hardware maintenance since there's no convenient way of swapping a node out while the server is running.

As an Australian I feel OP's pain, but I'm usually back on within a few minutes of the servers starting up, and I'm often on right up until the last few seconds.

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#14 - 2012-08-06 11:21:05 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Thats the price you pay for living in the land of OZ. Well that and all the deadly animals like the dropbear.


And the hoopsnake, and the glassfish.


Just FYI, the Hoopsnake is an American myth and the Glassfish is a real (and harmless) species of fish.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#15 - 2012-08-06 12:04:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
baltec1 wrote:
Thats the price you pay for living in the land of OZ. Well that and all the deadly animals like the dropbear.


If it doesn't have 2 legs, or is not considered to be a domesticated animal, in Australia it's generally right to assume it can kill you.

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Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
#16 - 2012-08-06 12:12:25 UTC
Daily downtime is seriously shameful.

Its due to an age of bad design that they will likely never escape from.
Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
#17 - 2012-08-06 12:18:33 UTC
Old dev blog about it

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Skorpynekomimi
#18 - 2012-08-06 12:19:15 UTC
Go live in a proper timezone.

Otherwise, the server has to be cleaned, rebooted, checked for faults, defragged, and have mice cleared out on a regular basis. Things have to be refreshed in game.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#19 - 2012-08-06 12:47:39 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Just FYI, the Hoopsnake is an American myth and the Glassfish is a real (and harmless) species of fish.


That may be the case in whatever warm and fuzzy land of flowing milk and honey you come from, but I was talking about Australia.

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#20 - 2012-08-06 12:59:37 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Just FYI, the Hoopsnake is an American myth and the Glassfish is a real (and harmless) species of fish.


That may be the case in whatever warm and fuzzy land of flowing milk and honey you come from, but I was talking about Australia.


And I was pointing out the only Australian thing you mentioned was the Dropbear you quoted. Roll
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