Crime & Punishment

Help rid he's of miners.

Please bring cynabals and dramiels for orca.

One question asked on Yahoo Questions: "Safest Way To Commit Suicide" - you just reminded me of that

Riiiight, because we all use pirate faction frigs and cruisers to kill miners. I see through your plan ;)

Ok, you failed to read what I said. I said the only increase in demand will be on mining ships... keyword increase. Demand right now already has built in all the other ships getting destroyed and needing replacement. If perps focus on miners due to new and improved cats then there is a surge in hulks (and other mining ships) lost.. all the other kills stay the same. Hence you have focused on killing a supplier of raw minerals. The notion of supply being unaffected is like saying there's not a drought in the US because there's plenty of water in the ocean. Minerals have to be extracted from rocks, they don't just land on the market.



I haven't seen data on this.



That's not what I said.. read above.




Again, read above, I answered this.



You don't sound that stupid. You don't think a lot of these people will LEAVE THE GAME. I'm having a hard time seeing how that's a good thing, usually businesses want to retain customers.

Actually, I think they have barely managed to keep it afloat, mostly through what, 16 free major content rollouts to try to keep customers interested? Game design is no walk in the park, granted. Keeping a game alive for 9 years is not easy either. Think for a moment, how many new gamers do you think Eve has lost in 9 years due to this gank crap in HS. I'd guess 1/2 a million as a bare minimum. And if they made it possible for a younger crowd to play, maybe several million new players might come in. Personally I love this game, always have, but people have left this game in droves. Just sayin

Well now I remember why I hate quotes and message boards.. a great time waster.

He won't have evidence, that guy is a troll who posts 'facts' to get a reaction. Ignore him.

Danks:

Clearly your upset that my unsupported facts, ie from memory, are just as good as your unsupported facts, from your memory.

"Some dumb miners just don't learn"

I confirm.

OK, all you whining whiny little whine-guys:

You can stop now. (/Facedesk)

Get on SiSi and take a look at the new--massively EHP-buffed, except for the Covetor/Hulk--barges, and even they got a little.

I've spent the last two days testing extensively on my max-skill "co-main," and handsome Tarryn, here.

(My manu/Indi alt doesn't have the skills to fly the T II versions, so no comment there--Mining Barge 5 only as per-requisite for the Orca, because those are just so incredibly versatile and useful)

The Covi/Hulk is still solo-gankable in 0.5/0.6 with decent-ish skills in an AlphaToro, but the others? **** no.

The Retriever can be solo-ganked in a 0.5 with the AlphaToro with max'ed skills, T II guns, and hope he doesn't shore up his Kinetic hole (with 2 EM/1 Thermic resist rig), as you need Quake ammo, as well as a power-grid rig to fit the T II Arty that can use it. That's the only Minmatar proj-gun ammo that has a large enough Kinetic damage component, that I can see. So, very expensive, with guaranteed loss of the ship.

If he does use a Kinetic shield-hardener, then Explosive or Thermic/EM will be the right damage type, so Quake still works there--assuming he's shield-tanked of course, no reason he wouldn't be that I can see. The Procurer, however, is the only one that has the slots for this (Just one mid on the other two, and not enough grid for an MSE II).

Testing on SiSi with Tarryns' lower skills -- even with just an SSE II in the mid, DCU II in a low, and the ususal resist-rigs -- I couldn't quite finish the Retriever in a 0.5, even with expensive-on-TQ meta-4 guns, and what on TQ would be some extremely expensive Hardwiring implants.

About that Procurer -- cannot be solo-ganked at all if even lightly tanked, with any real tank, forget it (typical shield-buff Drake-level EHP with 45% less signature-radius).

There you go:

You got what you wanted, you refused to adapt -- a properly tanked Hulk whose pilot is even halfway awake cannot profitably be ganked if you use brain -- but just spent years bleating like sheep being led to the fleecing, and it's worked.

CCP has now all but admitted that they want to protect idiots from themselves, because they, by now, probably are not sure that people are willing to do it themselves anymore.

So, my dear gankers:

Bring mates.

And bring Kinetics and/or Explosive. Lots of it!

I should hope that the "less-savoury" demographic of EVE will get a corresponding massive buff in balance to this.

They could start by:

1) Un-nerfing ninja-salvaging in general, it's on life-support at present--One of the only decent ways for a newbie to make money in a way that involves player interaction with potential un-predictable PvP*, and gives the newbie probing, d-scanning, and ship-fitting skills and experience that will be of huge merit for the life of the character.

2) Reverting the hard patch-out of the Orca hot-swap under aggro -- which is only applied in hisec to Orcas, not, you will note, to Orcas and carriers in losec/nullsec playing the exact same idiotic lamer's game.

3) Allow covert cynos to be lit, and bridging-to same in hisec, as well as allowing Stealth Bomber bombs in 0.1+ rated space (yes, hisec too).

4) Institute a legal way to have a chance of escaping CONCORD -- vanishingly small possibility of course, but should still be at least theoretically possible, and 100% legit if successful.

I was going to multi-snip and multi-quote the carebear troll above me, but sorry, just can't be arsed at the moment, too much like work. You'll keep for now though, troll, not to worry.

Well, except for one thing:

If the "younger" generation of players are all as horrid, over-entitled, brainless whiners as seems apparent, then no--CCP doesn't need them. Because EVE will ceasse to be what's made it so successful over 10 years, and has only grown, for the most part.

*Hisec is arguably the potential biggest "sandbox," PvP-wise because you never know quite what form it's going to take, or who's going to be bringing it.

Don't even mention nullsec -- that is a semi-consensual battleground for 1337-epeen strokers and drama-lama no-lifers--half of whom are probably botting and/or RMT'ing, and most of whom definitely are complete douchebags who take a freaking video-game far, far more seriously than any reasonably-adjusted adult should--which most of us want absolutely nothing to do with.

Look, bru:

This game has always been intended for mature people. We get it. Those who don't, don't matter, and are neither wanted nor welcome here.

Where am I e-raging, exactly?

I simply state facts.

Everyone who knows and gets EVE, knows this.

1/10, come on, I know you can do better than that

Next!

lol, geesus Astro, get some sleep dude. As I told Danks, I was there, we tried, didn't work, end of story. This was early in the game, seems like before MOO made their push into Core systems, before the KK, etc. though that's a long time ago to try to piece together a lot of details and I don't recall other game events around this time. I guess the reason it stuck in my mind is I didn't even see the shot hit the target and it was kinda disappointing at the time. We weren't doing anything fancy, just 1 vs 1. There was no measurable time between me firing and taking massive damage and popping. Just sayin, that's how it happened.. you don't like.. too bad.