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Thought exactly,

A Carrier strike group is made up of Carriers, Missile Cruiser, Missile Destroyers and Logistic and fuel ships. To name a few.

Without that support the Carrier would die, eventually, to smaller, less values ships with greater numbers.

Just design a super dreadnought. Something to hunt SC and titans with.

Yeah, there really needs to be a definitive statement on what each class of capitals is for, atm, we're kinda lost.

No1 is argueing about that people should stay an fight an commit, im talking about as I will yet again repeat, how is it going to be fair and just that people who disconnect due to no fualt of there own should suffer the penalty?

OK, they may be now, but tell me why they SHOULD continue to be so?



Why heavy and sentry drones cannot be used by carriers against BS?

And I'm saying: it won't make any difference for them since they didn't disconnect on purpose and will therefore log right back in — they wouldn't have stretched into that (potential) first renewal anyway.

You're not that important, and you never were--none of you. I hate to have to break that to you, but that's just the way it is, and I need no more proof of this than that no-one outside of null-sec, cares about nullsec anymore, nor yet wants anything to do with it. You're welcome to your stilted, broken mutual circle-jerk, the other 80-odd per cent (at least) of the player-base will be off doing fun...You know, kinda the whole reason one plays video-games in the first place.

Oh, and how, if I'm the "pirate," do sentry guns protect me, exactly?


EDIT: Post cleaned of unnecessary profanity, CCP Phantom.

Might sound stupid but please enlighten me here.

Did some theorycrafting around XL guns and HICs.
A Ragnarok with 6x2500 Repeating Artillery I (my EVEHQ doesn't have the meta guns handy) with 5 Federation Navy Tracking Links fitted on an Oneiros for the bonuses gets around 0.0212 rad/sec tracking.

A Phobos being webbed with a 60% web does 99 m/s in an orbit does around 0.02475 rad/sec right? So that does already outrun the guns basically. Since the Phobos only has a signature radius of 240m (without bubble its 162m) and the guns having a signature resolution of 1000m that adds another safety buffer to it.

Since I'm too lazy right now and the world is going down here in switzerland I've plugged the ships into EVEHQ.

In a 4k orbit chances to get hit by the target itself are close to 0 (000000.1% +/-)

Now I'm pretty sure that titan won't be alone on the field so lets assume you have a fleet of remote boosted ragnaroks on the field with a decent spread. Highest chance to hit will come out at around 75% on a range of ~45km if you shoot at the Phobos sitting on your buddy titan 45km off you might actually hit.

On the other hand if the HICs are not webbed down and keep their speed of 247 m/s your chance to hit them drops to around 45% at 60km range lower if closer.

I'd say it's doable but you gotta have a decent number of HICs and DICs and might focus more towards aHICs since the lower sig radius significantly increases the chance of survival

We're getting there soon. NGE

Don't get me wrong, I think these changes are headed in the right direction, for the most part. I just think it should be a matter of degrees, not "YOUR SHIP THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY USEFUL FOR MULTIPLE ACTIVITIES IS NOW UTTERLY USELESS FOR ANY PURPOSE BUT KILLING CAPITAL SHIPS. DEAL WITH IT."

Titans' subcap-murdering abilities are clearly overpowered-- the doomsday changes are a great start, although a tracking decrease or signature increase on their guns is clearly necessary as well to prevent them from routinely one or two-shotting BS, BCs, and even cruisers.

Supercarriers' ability to field infinite sub-fighter drones is also clearly overpowered-- SC drones should afford them minimal protection against tacklers, not the ability to wreck endless numbers of them.

I don't know that the EHP nerf is strictly necessary anymore with the proposed logoff mechanic changes, but I don't think it will ruin the ship classes either, and it will make killing them easier for smaller gangs or alliances that lack a large super fleet of their own, so I'm not opposed to it.

The logoff change is a great idea-- the only thing I'd add to the proposed changes is that ships that ctrl-q without agression should be agressable up until the point where their ship actually enters its ewarp (IE, while its aligning to ewarp). This would prevent people from cynoing / jumping into a nasty situation and (provided they aren't bubbled) simply ctrl-q'ing their way out of it. If they can safely ewarp out without being shot / whatever, then obviously they chose a safe logoff scenario (rather than trying to exploit their way out of a lossmail) and their ships should disappear promptly as normal.