EVE General Discussion

Let's see. Nobody in their right mind, unless they're intentionally looking for trouble, goes into low sec. It's common knowledge the wannabee pirates (assured of no sovereign retribution) operate there in hopes of blobbing hapless so-called "care bears"( who wander in) for easy kills, and epeen strokes. Low sec is boring? Why hell yes. Why wouldn't it be? Everybody who's got business out there is already there staring at each other wondering where the buffoons are and why won't they come in here and let us trounce them?!

Null sec...it's common knowledge (with few exceptions) unless you're in a well-organized group with good SP, better ships, tons of money, and active players, null sec is a place you hope to get to one day, if everything goes well, and luck is on your side. Till that time, it's a noble goal. Null sec players might bear that in mind if they're wanting to populate their playpen. New players have to be trained and groomed to operate there, and you're the ones with the know-how, and resources to help people make the transition. It's not lost on us lesser players null sec players whine about how lonely it is out there, but rarely lift a pinky finger to change that.

High sec? Let's see...it's all kinds of dumb to stay in an area where you won't lose everything you own in one shot and have to start all over. Stupid dumb. Even though "all" those people in low and null sec have years in the game, and the SP to prove it, high sec players are just plain stupid for staying safe, working to build their abilities and resources, and biding their time till something good comes along to transition their game to a different level.

So...I hope I'm following this...all these outraged and disparaging players assaulting our integrity and insulting our courage for staying in high sec are actually trolling for victims to pad their killboards. If we take their advice and roll the dice to go into these two zones - low and null sec - they'll ambush us, rob us and laugh at us for listening to them at all. In fact...this has become such common knowledge a certain Alliance has had to break from their own digs and come raiding helpless mining ships cause they can't get game where they claim they're the boss of the house...padding their killboards in a frenzy of digital nailbiting...

Do I have this right? Hmmmm....

Clearly, I don't go into Lowsec to make drugs and explore...

All my isk is made from running missions in high sec 24/7.


Why not go to Lowsec first before you say that only wannabe pirates live in Lowsec.

Well its more of an attitude of older player which has been sank in the isk/hr ratio for so long.

At the beginning everyone wants to fly rifter and seek fights. In the end is how much isk/hr you do.

Its sad. I am one of those. Not atm since i dont log so frequently anymore but more then less...

I even remember some -10 corporation helping us newbies out at 2008 i guess it was great chat and an thrill back in the days.

Aw...you know I had to pull a few chains just for grins. Though, I'm not voicing my own opinion about population distribution. That's amply laid out in multiple forum posts.

Sure, you can throw the baby in the pool and yell "SWIM!" But, isn't that a bit unsophisticated for members of an advanced society, to let people learn on their own. "I had to. So, you have to." Doesn't seem very advanced in thinking there.

The idea being; things may not be the way they seem, but how do you know? Is it worth losing everything to find out? Some people, of course, would answer, "Hell yeah!" But, some people would get into the bar fight and worry later about facing the judge the next morning, and the fine...much later.

I'd say the majority of people prefer to operate in an area of confidence. No one's saying remove all risk. That would make all the zones identical. It's more of an incentive thing. If low sec / null sec denizens would like to see more population movement, rather than messing with the game dynamics to force the issue, why not use player-initiated approaches to make it all a little less than shooting in the dark?

Some would say, no. The motives of those would then be suspect. Those who would say yes then open themselves up for looking at the game with a little less self-interest and a bit more community interest. I guess the logic of all this is blinding.

PS Not a blatant attempt to bump this post.

I say there needs to be low sec police provided by empires and not concord so that a pirate can still gank you but hell have to be a hit and run sort of deal instead of camp all day. He can have a home low sec zone where he can run raiding missions into the neighboring hostile areas and get LP and Standings (like low sec amarr might give you a mission to target kill a ship in gallente low sec space)

The friendliest, most fun to play with players I've ever met have all lived in lowsec. Of course, it's not that we don't have a couple mind-bogglingly stupid players too, but they're relatively few - and I've got a feeling that anything that encourages players like the OP to visit would drastically alter the proportion in favor of mind-boggling stupidity.

Lowsec may need some small enhancements (gimme my fix), but calls for a radical reworking so that highsec folk will flood it en-masse are rather shortsighted.

The middle one sounds like the Goons in their interdiction especially Mittani.
Ive seen quite a large amount of freely flowing Goon tears about not having targets.

Nullsec is generally more work. you have to be organised and active. there is no casual play there as people want killboard stats to show that you have been online. Most of the Epeens who say that they log on when they want are lying as there are untold cases of people who have done that and either been kicked out or logged on to find themselves surrounded by russians and there old alliance no where to be seen


Lowsec only has a very small number of things going for it. If you want to do PI you can get a better rate from lowsec and its pretty safe to do. Certain missions are worthwhile but they are only in one system i can think of. Everything else is junk. Exploration is a waste of time as the best you can hope for is 5/10 plex or an nullsec hidden belt. but then you still have to get the stuff out and good luck bring in your hulk. There are no financial rewards in lowsec than cannot be beaten by highsec.


Highsec. Eve online easy street and the only option for the casual player. Plus highsec wars and general pvp is completely different to other secs and a lot of returnee nullsecers prefer it. I know that i do.


If you disagree with me you hate america and support terrorism

Hi sec, low sec, null sec...what sec?

For ****s sec?