Crime & Punishment

I posted this in the Dev blog but thought at page 44 it may not get read. So I made this thread to remedy that.

I like the new changes to the mining barges specifically.

I am not sure, that it will solve the ganking issue in high sec though.

I would suggest a slight modification to the current security status levels. Anyone can get ganked in 1.0 just as easy as in 0.5 atm which seems a little wrong IMO.

Why even have a sec status rating for these systems. You might as well just give it 3 statuses.

2.0 High sec
1.0 low sec
0.0 null sec

With the current system why not add advanced aggression from Concord and belt patrols for 1.0-0.8 space. You try and lock someone, you get a warning....you choose to actually lock them, Concord attacks you.

0.7-0.5 you can lock them, but you fire and you get Concorded. No belt patrols, but still patrols at gates and Stations.

0.4-0.1 Concord will respond eventually, so time for the ganker to retreat.

Null sec....well stays null sec.

The above are just a basic layout to make the security system actually mean more in the game. Just an idea. It does need to be looked at though and I would welcome any change at all. My idea is just an example.

The potential for people quitting the game will go down significantly.

The old heads wont quit because they cant gank folks in 1.0 systems anymore, but I am sure relatively new players have quit from being ganked after they spent all their hard earned isk just to lose it 10 minutes later to a ganker prick.

Risk vs reward comes into play as the more rare and expensive ore would be located in the lower sec systems.

I should not be getting evemail from a Goon saying I have to pay him for protection to mine in HIGH sec space.

Cops do not wait for a bank robber to execute their hostage before storming in to take said robber down. They send in the SWAT team at the first available opportunity. Security guards are there to prevent a crime, not exact retribution after the fact.

First!

Edit: crap, second :( Nevertheless, here we go again on this topic.

Actually, I think that was my honor.

If someone wants to gank you, they're going to, regardless of patrols, superweapons, giant space-station-moons, and forum banter. Remember the high-sec gank of the freighter? They just tossed ship after ship until it died, regardless of Concord interference (that was a few years ago, if I recall correctly). Quite a feat. No matter what you do, the only way to be 100% safe in EVE is to isolate yourself in-station, don't touch the market, don't touch contracts, don't do anything.

And where's the fun in that?

You fly, you take risks. Looking at your little reference to SWAT teams waiting on bank hostages...

The POLICE are not in your house until after the thief breaks in. It's up to YOU to defend your home.

In null sec that makes sense because it is your home... In high sec though it is another matter. Putting belt patrols and changing the mechanics would reduce gankers. They would have to atleast risk something viable and put forth some effort to ruin your week.

CONCORD are not flown by people. CONCORD is an AI reaction to aggression in high sec. They are not there to patrol the beat and make sure everyone is safe and sound and tucked in tight.

Empire/Highsec =/= free from risk.

Instead of changing the way the game works, why not improve the way you play and get smart about these things. No one ever wants to take responsibility for their own actions, everyone wants to blame something else.

I think OP is a troll, but if not, u might as well realize that games and game mechanics are not rationalized by real world examples? The game company mainly wants to make profit, so as long as they do they do something right :p
If it's a good company they may even have "providing entertainment" on there agenda, but only if they still make profit.

Putting the reactive NPCs in a belt won't help keep you alive. I refer to, once again, the freighter gank. CONCORD was already there from the first shots fired, but the gank-squad persisted through the ship losses until the target was dead. That's what they do. They blow you up because they can. And they can because they'll do whatever it takes to do.

True, but my point is they would make much more if they were to consider this possibility. When you are new to a game, you want some reward for your time.... Not the potential to lose it in a heartbeat. I guarantee lots of people quit because they get ganked one too many times and get fed up with the BS.

Why stay in highsec with all your skills and awesome ships to pick on the vulnerable and new folks. Exploit them. That really shows how awesome you are at the game. Makes you so much better than the new guy.

They pay their money the same as you do, they should have a voice too.

You don't get to tell me no. And I dont afk mine.