EVE General Discussion

FW should be a never ending conuest match of battlefield in space.

yes ban supercaps
we dont need alliances so much in FW, keep it loosy organized.

conquer stations = lockout of enemy fw, set taxes for neuts, the one who did the most trying to take the stations gets the ownership

upgradable systems, FW police shoul come help defend FW players that are aggressed by pirates, this means FW plays can focus more on enemies then pirates.

No pve at all.. no plexes no missions, enemies can drop tags ( max 5 tags per day) dependong on how many enemies they have killing in the last week the better the tag. so the more u kill, the more valuable your death will be worth, ye sthis can be abused, try to base it off ship hulls too.

my ideas
+ less yartarrds killing FW memebers
+ trade wil become more viable in lowsec,
+more PVP between the factions
+ more people in lowsec = pirates can see more targets
+conquest in space = win

-pirate tears ( maybe)
- FW players who farm plexes all day will Q_Q

Supercap-blobbing alliances can stay the **** out of my FW tyvm

high sec needs to be vunerable too in fw

for example if minmatar militia attacks an amarrian constellation with 3x low sec and 3x high sec systems in it and manages to capture all the low secs systems then the 3 remaining high sec systems should drop to 0.4 sec systems and thus become vunerable to attack

if the minmatar militia is successful in capturing all 6 systems in the constellation then 3 will flip to 0.5 sec & 3 will remain low sec but under minmatar's sov. if the adjoining constellations also gets captured by the minmatar militia then the systems in the first constellation all flip to high sec and the surrounding constellation's systems that are in direct contact with the first constellation will flip to low sec first starting at 0.1 sec and rising over time provided the system remains held by the amarrian militia but if the minmatar take these adjoining low sec systems then the surrounding high sec in that constellation drops to low sec until again captured by minmatar where it then flips back up to high sec but again now under minmatar control.

(all systems increases over time upto a max of 0.7 sec) 1.0 to 0.8 sec systems will remain invulnerable to attack so new rookies will always have a safe place to start off their eve training.

if all a region's vunerable systems (0.7 or below) is captured by minmatar militia then all the constellations bordering another minmatar controlled region become high sec and all constellations bordering any non minmatar controlled regions will have 50% of the systems low sec and 50% high sec unless those constellations are being contested.

so that there is always a way to invade a region held by one of the 4 factions 50% of all systems bordering null sec will always be low sec. Also Concord held space cannot be attacked

this would make high sec -> low/null sec routes constantly shift. yes pirates would have to move about more to get ganks on haulers... but haulers too would have to find ways to get stuff out safely to null sec.

but overall it would shift about bottlenecks or even remove in to regions systems such as keberz -> hed-gp or torrinos ->ec-p8r or kari -> y-mpwl or dital ->kpb7-g

One more thing: I don't think we'll get anything out of CCP besides some cosmetic changes anyway, given how much they put on plate for winter expansion. So I would not hold my breath for any major changes. maybe they'll address some well know and annoying bugs, or give us some live events , but I'll be really surprised if we see anything more than that in coming expansion.

I think you make some good points here. I remember when one of bobs corps joined minmatar. It was allot of station camping and not much fun.

Though I also think its a shame that certain player alliances that have traditionally been aligned with a faction can't participate.


What if they made it this way:

1) Only corps can join fw not whole alliances

2) If your corp is in an alliance, you can only join if your alliance does not hold sov.

This way certain alliances could have a few corps in the faction war. Do you still think lots of large alliances would join fw in order to farm the missions?


Also keep in mind that if there are enough plexes throughout the fw regions it is hard to blob them. They are restricted by ship size.

What If I had my alts join the opposing militia, buy a bunch of t1 ships, insured them and then I blew them up? This will always be a sort of cap to the pvp rewards, and this means the rewards will never be all that great.

I agree with this. Plus the original lp rewards for pvp kills happened before the insurance nerf. So there probably is some room to up the lp rewards.

3rd attempt at posting today..... :|

Alliances in FW

As a member of an RP-PVP alliance, being locked out of the games incarnation of the 'RP conflict' kinda sucks. This severely hurt the existing RP scene when FW launched as it negatively impacted many of the games existing RP entities. CCP's view was that we could just disband our alliances and share a chat channel because its 'basically the same thing'. I disagreed then, I disagree now.

A long time ago I proposed a system where faction standings could be used to allow alliances into FW but still pose a bar against larger entities walking in to steam roll or just plain grief the whole thing. If an average of all member pilots/corps faction standings were taken and a suitable threshold set then it be used to filter out the motivated alliances from idle griefers. It also scales up, the larger your alliance is then the harder it will be to achieve and keep that threshold. As new corps join an alliance they will need to have compatible standings else the alliance loses its FW status. I think such a system would restrict access to alliances focused on FW, RP-motivated alliances and effectively exclude larger groups entirely.

I think that alliances are good for forming social structures and identity, that has value. It is why we did not disband the Ushra'Khan 4 years back. We valued the history and social bonds too much.

Finally, I think that FW could provide a good breeding ground for alliances to emerge from that can mature before stepping out into null sec on their own. Battle hardened, close knit young alliances stepping out to carve their names into nul sec? Sounds like part of the shake up null sec needs tbh.

Make Occupancy Matter

Who is winning the war should matter. The fact it doesn't has always annoyed me and de-motivates anyone from going after the plexes or whatever system might be developed to replace them. EVE is a game about consequences, cause and effect. FW has none.

I would like to see occupancy of systems have repercussions, such as docking restrictions or access to station services being revoked. Or the sentry guns thing. But more than that, I want to see the outcomes of FW have an impact beyond FW. Faction standings should mean more in this game than which agents will give you a job. If my Amarr standings suck and I go wandering through the war zone, I should not be welcomed into their stations. Therefore, it should be in my interest to support the Minmatar to take that system if I want to use it for my own ends. Null sec alliances should not have free reign, and the militias should be a ;part of the wider world than just a limited section of low sec.


FW expansion

I think that consideration should be given to expanding the war zones throughout low sec. Particularly if it does become more popular.


Incursion-style Mechanics

This is likely too much content for the winter expansion, but I'd like to see the Incursion mechanics leveraged to create more dynamic FW content. The empires could launch offensives spawning special encounter sites intended to provoke more focused fights. To keep it in keeping with the backstory of the Militia Act, these might be faction navy 'NPC capsuleers' or groups such as the Minmatar Elders or Caldari Dragonaurs (Tibus Heth's lot) instigating the attacks outside of the empire governments. These randomly occurring 'offensives' might include encounter sites for both sides allowing for an influence tug of war to resolve system occupancy.


Transparency & Stats

There is a website hosted by the ISD (volunteers) that tracks FW stats. It monitors system captures and corp kill/victory points. This is stuff that should be presented in game and on EVEgate. The status of contested systems is currently shown as blobs on the starmap. None of this is currently very clear, accessible or engaging. An overhaul of how FW information is presented would improve the connection players feel to the war effort I think.

Faction standing to allow alliances in to fw:

I'm not sure this would be any sort of significant barrier. At least not unless they make changes to how easy it is to get faction standings. Its really pretty easy to boost your standings in a faction. You could just tell pilots that want to join your alliance they have to join the npc militia corp (or some other militia corp and run some plexes.) Most times you can then boost your faction standing in a week or so.


Incursion style mechanics:

I think using existing mechanics is really self limitting on what FW can become. We already have incursions in low sec. Therefor to the extent that mechanic is going to draw people into eve - its already happening.

If they just repackage that gameplay mechanic and call it fw they are not going to make fw something that draws new people in to eve.

I think they should try to make fw something that will increase the number of subscribers by 100k. Repackaging existing gameplay mechanics will not do that.

I think if they want to really draw people into eve they need to make a mechanic that showcases frequent small scale pvp. Thats the thing that eve currently does not have.

Dunno about you, but I can't see alliances persuading hundreds of people to all go standing grind for weeks on multiple characters. Telling every recruit to go grind standings up then come back is a good way to lose yourself recruits too.

If the minimum standings requirement is set high enough then it will become a non-trivial barrier for any larger entity to achieve. And what do they gain from all the effort at the end of the day anyway? Does it help them conquer Delve?