Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It would take a lot of the social aspect out of EVE because people wouldn't be able to coordinate their efforts as easily, pilots have limited attention spans, and people wouldn't log on as often, so eventually the whole game would turn into a gankers' free-for-all with bears in highsec.

Now, honestly, how many do you think does this, even during hulkageddon?

I like the cut of your jib. Up vote.

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Hahaha you're a Goon and added nothing to the thread.

Maybe there is, having one centralized thread about removing local achieves two points.

It gives people a central thread to see multiple views on the issue.

It has the chance to act as a flag that this topic is covered, and not to bother making a new thread repeating it, presuming it stays on page one visibly.

Removing Local makes Stealth Bombers +9001% more OP than they already are.

Biomass yourself and uninstall EVE.

When timed properly, they can take out surprisingly large targets. SBs aren't the only thing flying around with cloaks, though.


Except it still requires paying attention, and people are still getting caught.


Unlike the opposite situation where there is no local, where you have to pay attention literally all the time you're outside a station or a POS, and at best you have 4-6 seconds to react, which can come at any time.


No, it really isn't. Or, well, if you think nullsec is overpopulated right now, then sure, it's the problem.

YES YES YES!!!

And guess what? If they work together, they can make reaction time even better than that! Imagine an intel channel that people actually need and pay attention to!




Null ain't going anywhere.

But if you raise the bar in high sec, some of them might discover they can do more than they realized, and visit low and null.

Easy!

30 seconds in this game can feel like an eternity. You see nothing change over that time, and it is very easy to look elsewhere, and become inattentive.
Mining lasers take a good long time to cycle enough to make a jetcan miner need to transfer their items to that can.
Fighting in a mission? It is soooo easy to become focused on your overview and target list. Reload the weapons! Swap over to the other box to support somehow!

Now consider if local is gone.
You still mine, rat, or grind missions, but you no longer have that reassuring 'don't worry window". Now you wonder, so you hit d-scan, or possibly they add in a means to automate it.
Every time it pulses or updates, it becomes your security assurance. You need to see it clear, or you know you have a problem.
In high sec? You set it so it excludes station traffic, and those traveling gate to gate. Being able to filter out so many obvious false alarms is a huge advantage.
You just want to know about people getting close enough to where you are, not thru traffic. Anything that shows up is cause for alarm, and gives you a reason to align. Are they leaving? do you know what they are doing? Do you gamble they are safe to keep pve action going?

The fact is, every time you see a neutral pilot listed in high sec local, it is usually crying wolf. You can't accomplish everything if you assume every neutral pilot is going to try and gank you, so you are looking at a list of mostly false alarms and worthless intel.

Now, imagine you are a ganker. There is no local, so you have no idea who is on, or if they are in the same system as you.
You probably have a patrol route of favorite places to find victims, and you likely know you need to move fast between discovery and attack. Seeing you scares off more than a few, but you catch enough of the slower ones to be happy.

Translation: The guys who make the least effort get caught the most. Darwin loves you, and the guys who make the most effort might just try their skills more aggressively to boot.


Fallacy?

Unless the hunter knows his target is present, he cannot attack it. The presence of local told them with indisputable certainty that the target was present. If they looked long and hard enough, they could find it. Often it took little effort beyond realizing they were present to be found.

Now, no local? The above described patrol route is your best hope, and if they figure out your path, they might just learn to avoid it. Are there belts outside D-Scan range if someone flies from X to Y? Then you need to go off course or risk missing a kill.
There! someone in that group of orbital items.... belt one, empty, belt two, nothing... belt three, nope... what? They left?
Fourteen belts, and by the time I eliminated three of them, they realized they were being hunted and booked out.

This was so much easier when they mistook my scouting alt for thru traffic, and ignored him....