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There's a slow but constant haemorrhage of new players

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Greyscale Dash
Doomheim
#301 - 2012-06-12 02:41:54 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Most new players not interesting in FW, nullsec, PvP - they want sci-fi hi-sec carebear gameplay which is limited (for new players without deep knowledge) to hulkageddoned mining, repetitive missions, various noob-targeted scams-griefers-pirates, sitting in captain jail cell. I wouldn't expect player hemorrhaging will stop during next couple of years because CCP definitely doesn't have any plans to expand hi-sec / carebear gameplay after monoclegeddon.


Boo hoo let me play a sad song on the world's smallest solid technetium violin,
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#302 - 2012-06-12 02:46:20 UTC
Now I didn't look through all 16 pages, but I'd be surprised if nobody else posted this. So sorry if I am repeating.

Im not sure where the OP gets his data, but this graph tells a different story. Historically EVE has what looks to be one of the healthiest curves.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#303 - 2012-06-12 02:54:09 UTC
Greyscale Dash wrote:
Lipbite wrote:
Most new players not interesting in FW, nullsec, PvP - they want sci-fi hi-sec carebear gameplay which is limited (for new players without deep knowledge) to hulkageddoned mining, repetitive missions, various noob-targeted scams-griefers-pirates, sitting in captain jail cell. I wouldn't expect player hemorrhaging will stop during next couple of years because CCP definitely doesn't have any plans to expand hi-sec / carebear gameplay after monoclegeddon.


Boo hoo let me play a sad song on the world's smallest solid technetium violin,

I take it you have an actual reason why this game shouldn't have some form of decent PvE?
Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#304 - 2012-06-12 04:14:44 UTC
I love that this thread was necro'd. Such sweet memories

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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#305 - 2012-06-12 04:58:11 UTC
Yeah, we need to stop all these newbies bleeding into Eve from other games.

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Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#306 - 2012-06-12 05:01:47 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
I take it you have an actual reason why this game shouldn't have some form of decent PvE?


I hear CCP added group PvE content but most of the dudes that did it quit because the margins over L4s were not worth playing with other players in a multiplayer game

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ashley Eoner
#307 - 2012-06-12 05:07:40 UTC
Roime wrote:
Exactly.

I think the biggest problem is that NPC corps make new players think that EVE is about shooting the same old red crosses year after year, that lowsec is a horrible place and all nullsec is controlled by EVIL GOONS.

If they believe this, they completely miss out on everything that is wonderful about the whole game.

You're not interested in the health of the game. You just want to be able to be able to freely grief newbies.
Herr Hammer Draken
#308 - 2012-06-12 06:21:59 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
Thorn Galen wrote:
You have the numbers, you know we're losing a small number of new players on a daily basis.
The number of players being lost to EvE outnumber the new players signing-up (who then also become ex-players).

No, I did not say EvE is dying - it's just not growing as well as it could be. Big difference there.

EVE loses more players than it gets in new sign-ups every single day yet it is still growing? Shocked


Yep I do not follow that either. EVE numbers are growing. I think in fact they reached an all time high recently.
But they might be counting the number of subs. Some may not be active. SOme may be players that are trying out other games and will come back. Who knows. The only number we see is how many are online when you log in. That number seems constant to me over the last month.

But the turnover is quite high. Pure guess but I suspect that for every 10 new players that sign up 9 leave.
Are those 9 that leave all from that new player signup group? Or are they a mix of new and old?

Whoever runs RED vs Blue should be able to give some numbers on this as that is where a lot of new players go.
So how many new players sign up every month? How many leave RED vs Blue every month? Are those that leave
quiting the game or just moving on to something else in EVE?

Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet"
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#309 - 2012-06-12 06:35:00 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:
Roime wrote:
Exactly.

I think the biggest problem is that NPC corps make new players think that EVE is about shooting the same old red crosses year after year, that lowsec is a horrible place and all nullsec is controlled by EVIL GOONS.

If they believe this, they completely miss out on everything that is wonderful about the whole game.

You're not interested in the health of the game. You just want to be able to be able to freely grief newbies.

Actually we need tutorials telling them about how bad goons are...

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ISD Stensson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#310 - 2012-06-12 08:17:44 UTC
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