Warfare & Tactics

Why don't you just make all plexes more difficult the more contested a system is.

I can't think of any other way of getting aroudn the afk plexing alts apart from making the plexes progressivly harder. Just have to decide which is the lesser of two evils

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Yeah I did mean back to the starting point, not auto capture.

Julius I do like your plan with the timer. But i feel that the damage dealt in certain plexes should be or how it is dealt in certain plexes also needs to be addressed but i do like you plan with the timer.

Just to add on what if a defender is in the plex defensive plexing and a war target chases him out or pie do you think the timer should count back to 0?

I have soloed some Caldari Majors with the new Incurses on the test server however on Tranquillity I prefer minor plexes with a PVP fit (I am rubbish anyway so the enemy really have nothing to worry about)

If someone really does not want to fight I am not sure even the timer change or forcing them to ship up would make them, the rewards for PVP need to be greater or something more fundamental needs to change with timers and NPC’s. Extra LP for PVP within a plex, timer deductions for kills or perhaps it needs some form of loss mitigation such as and increased pay-out for ship loss while in a plex.

As stated earlier consequences for not engaging, maybe standing losses if you start a plex and then it is lost. Also if the timer is to count down by itself and you want to defend as well then perhaps it should go down even faster.

Defensive plexing needs some form of reward; even if it is small I support the LP restore to the hub ideas being touted. Should defensive plexing trigger enemy NPC spawns if you are the only ship in the plex (especially at higher contested percentages) at least there would be more of an activity to it, but more NPC’s does not really sound like the way to go.

Removing all E-war I worry will just make Gallente (and Amarr) complexes even easier, the NPC’s already cannot hit the side of a station door and would now not even provide e-war assistance. In some ways I have learnt to deal with ECM, drones ftw.

If they are looking for Gallente style missile NPC’s then I remember some missile Celestis in the Gallente Epic arc. (It’s the microwarpdriving Hypes that are really scary in those missions though)

You guys would just complain about something else not being fair. I still find it funny that in a few weeks since the patch Gals have gone from trolling Caldari because you expected to get a easy win after the FW update to complaining about losing and blaming it on NPC's.

You guys need to get off your asses and fight back. You guys are very lazy and unwilling to leave your blob behind.. That is why you are losing. The war front has changed and your blobs & sitting in 1 or 2 system with 30 or 40 of your closest buddies, will not help you.

The unexpected truth of the new plexing system is it has given a buff to smaller gang fighting, something Caldari has been doing for quite some time now. Caldari aren't running around with AFK condors farming plexes, winning the war with noob alts.. The bulk of Caldari's I see out are running minors in Dessies/frigs with PVP fits and fighting over plexes vs the few Gals that show up or local pies.

Gals on other hand sit in their home system do almost no defense and cry on forums about NPC's being unfair expecting to just undock 20 or 30 guys to chase a random noob, thinking that will win the war for them.

The simple fact is, you are now losing because you are lazy.. Not because of NPC's or noob alts farming plexes.

Dear Gallente,

The Caldari are gonna take all your systems.

Yours Faithfully,
IbanezLaney

Whether or not one faction has the advantage over others, it doesnt seem to have stopped the Federation in having a great deal of success. You have managed to remove the State Protectorate entirely from Enaluri (and hold the system), capture numerous strategic station systems in Black Rise (and hold them) and can rally highly organised fleets to successfully defend/capture complexes.
My point being that even if it is un-balanced, it cant be so much that it is stopping the disadvantaged side from not only participating, but also succeeding in Faction Warfare.
I dont have a Gallente alt and have never captured Minmatar complexes so I can not say that dopfied is definately right or horribly wrong. I am sure that Faction Warfare and complexes can be improved further with more fixes/tweaks/adjustments on all sides but to treat it as a dramatically un-balanced feature of EVE is perhaps a bit too over the top? As I said, the Federation still get good results in Militia overall so hopefully CCP will take this into account before making any major changes.

I do hope this 'temporary re-balancing' removal of electronic warfare isnt the start of a new trend... Im sure nobody would enjoy all having to fly the same ship types into generic complex #03 to destroy the same NPC's/pilots who use the same turrets to hit for the same damage type just so we can all sit comfortably in the knowledge that we are all on a completely equal playing field...
Dopified, you have made a fair point and CCP have obviously heard this argument quite a lot of times by the sound of it. I am sure there is room for some more changes in Faction Warfare (there always is right?) but I just think the evidence offered from killboards (QCATS recent achievement), systems contested/occupied and my own personal experiences in militia (getting raped on a regular basis by your pilots) says that this issue is perhaps being blown slightly out of proportion by the general militia forum populace?

Let me please add that I am not against having the EW re-balanced in complexes at all.

Anyway, from a Caldari point of view, there is one bonus to having EW removed from complexes...
I can finally stop wasting a mid slot on a sensor booster. Extra Invul Field II anyone?

Veldt

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Unless you fly for more than one militia you basically get this now.