Missions & Complexes

At least we got lucky & the next Incursion spawn popped up next door... doubt we'll have to let an incursion die like we did with the Caldari incursion... wonder how much LP there was lost?

just how long does ti take to get 60k SP??

plus who give a f about isk farmers like you??

You guys are all terrible. They probably meant kk, as in commonly meaning million in many countries.

I have only seen "kk" on this forums, nowhere else. which countries you speak of?

BTW: Anyone who writes stuff like "NNkm3" is grossly misleading (by a million times), for heavens sake make a " " between the "k" and the "m".

Looks like Incursions have reached the point where all of the null/lo sec Incursions withdraw on thier own and over the passt week 1/2 the HI SEC Incursions are withdrawing without the Kundalini Manifest being spotted. Competition in sites is just a memory.

and where is the good at this ? CCP killed the incursion community. Some people like it , stayed at eve for it , might leave now (if they havent) . It was an aspect inside of a game that attracted people. Yes the isk were 2 much , but thats a different story from what they did atm.

And in my opinion it is not fair to have 12 people earning less than a level 4 farmer solo gets. As for the low sec - null sec telling about risk - payment , let the ccp remove the local then see them crying even more from people that run incursion. Most of the times low sec and null sec is safer than high sec once you learn the signs . I only accept that argument from people that live at WH space , and still many wh are deserted and you might get popped once but profit the loss many many times before .

Not true before the nerf most lo sec incursions were being run and the blue bars were signiifcant.

Simi posting a killmail wont change the thing that low sec is safe. You have systems that have more kills and are high sec, it all depends on where you are to be honest. But there are many many systems that you see like 3 to 5 people regulars and are low sec. Most of the times after a while you can set standing with those people , you know who the pirates are , who are safe . That of course doest change the fact you can be killed , but thats also apply on many of the mission hubs areas for example if you have something shinny worth killing. Also most of the times high sec kills are more isk / worthy (trade route indy's , fr , mission boats ) that give better killmails and more profit ofc (although piracy has decreased a bit) . (have you seen the eve univercity vs RnB killmails ? almost 500 ppl on high sec )

I agree to that local change you mentioned It needs a lot of effort but if it is ever been done it will start the low sec tears because many people will actually have danger involved when they farm isk.

As far as ratting at nullsec inside an alliance .. hmmm. It not that dangerous either. You have intel , d-scan , local , your own scouts to pretty much do it the safest way possible.

From my point of view ccp went 2 far with the incursion nerfs. Money should have lowered , but not at this rate. Also the mechanics are .... making it not enjoyable to the people that were doing it for the community part . I also believe that it affected the rest on a negative way. Lets assume someone could actually play 3 days and have their plex from incursions (it can be done from plexing if you lucky in less less time on low sec , most of the time you have it around 5 days ) and the other 2 to fund few ships. Those ships could cover my pvp on low sec - null sec because that very person wont be thinking about losing his ship (to my advantage) and get a new one.

With level 4 farming and incursion as it is now , how many days he needs to get the isk for plex and ships ? Defenetely more so defenetely less days to come to me to pvp or try to have fun with the game. I see it like that , dont get me wrong

P.S. sorry for the mistakes i might have . I am a bit of rusty when it comes the English .

[b][b]you didnt get me . I dont complain about isk. I have more than enough to enjoy the game. A market trader char can really make you enough isk for the lols once you get the hang. And to be honest i rarely undock like 2-3 times per month. But it is more than enough to stick to 0.0 where i my alts are and enjoy . This doesnt apply to all the people. Cutting their isk / h ratio for a group play isnt right. You can solo for more at HS , solo for much more at low sec (plex , mining , dunno about ratting) and much more nullsec . On all those the danger might be more in general but it doesnt apply all the times. Also it [b]SOLO play . Thats what i dont like. Team play should be worth more than solo play no matter what. As for high sec security , go there drop a can , shoot the one that will loot it ( most of the times people will loot it )

Problem is incursions are now widely run by incursion community elitest faggots that only care for isk/hour.

that was the issue for VG since they were incredbily easy isk allowing lots of people to fleet up and run them.

Now the best isk is in assualts but unless you are an elitest pirate ship owner you got no chance.... and these fags wonder why the communities are dye-ing. i can name a few communities in particularly.