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Incursion changes

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#441 - 2012-06-08 06:46:04 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
So CCP Soundwave, Affinity, or Diagoras any stats about Incursions post NERF?
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#442 - 2012-06-08 06:49:37 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
So CCP Soundwave, Affinity, or Diagoras any stats about Incursions post NERF?

I've got some: 99% of your posts are unconstructive :buffincursions: whining.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#443 - 2012-06-08 06:54:03 UTC  |  Edited by: DarthNefarius
Simi Kusoni wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
So CCP Soundwave, Affinity, or Diagoras any stats about Incursions post NERF?

I've got some: 99% of your posts are unconstructive :buffincursions: whining.


I've got another 99.9 % of your replies are trolling mine & even less constructive
but its nice to have such a fan club to get a rise out of Big smile
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#444 - 2012-06-08 07:50:55 UTC
I'm glad to see your whiny post all over the forum.

reminding me of how much you carebears butthurt about your isk fountain
Stalafur
State War Academy
Caldari State
#445 - 2012-06-08 08:46:46 UTC
Carebears whining, then other people whine about carebears. Stop complaining, people have their own isk fountains, don't ruin it for them. The goons have their moon goo, atleast the carebears have incursions and wormholes Big smile
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#446 - 2012-06-08 10:12:34 UTC
Stalafur wrote:
Carebears whining, then other people whine about carebears. Stop complaining, people have their own isk fountains, don't ruin it for them. The goons have their moon goo, atleast the carebears have incursions and wormholes Big smile

Wormholes <3

And we aren't anti-carebear, I'm a giant carebear myself, what we are against is non-sandbox style PvE. Especially when that themepark PvE content earns almost as much or more than the available sources of sandbox PvE in the game.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

Dren Nas
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#447 - 2012-06-08 15:17:52 UTC
The nerf has been bad enough that I can make just a little less isk and hour without the headache of the vanguard fleets or the risk of losing a ship worth over a billion.

I just can't justify the risk/annoyance anymore.
Herr Ronin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#448 - 2012-06-09 08:58:03 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
So CCP Soundwave, Affinity, or Diagoras any stats about Incursions post NERF?

I've got some: 99% of your posts are unconstructive :buffincursions: whining.


I've got another 99.9 % of your replies are trolling mine & even less constructive
but its nice to have such a fan club to get a rise out of Big smile


Want a tissue?

I want your autograph!!!

I'll Race You For A Amburhgear

DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#449 - 2012-06-12 05:34:40 UTC
Daneel Trevize wrote:

CCP got it wrong as ever. Here's hoping they fix it this summer and soon, it's been months already.


From CCP Soundwave's last DEV blog I've gleamed they've been exclusively been working on the UI screwup. Don't expect anything soon. Oops
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Borlag Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#450 - 2012-06-12 12:47:32 UTC
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72880

Silly changes to be honest. It's not the 10% isk nerf that is killing incursion fleets, nor is it the influence bar although it was definitely better earlier. It's the pacing that's an issue, fleets running into roadblocks with sites not worth running.

If isk was their only concern, and it seems it really was, rollback ALL changes and nerf all incursion profits, including LP by 50% in high sec, 30% in null sec and leave low sec as is and the incursion community would complain about the nerf in the short run, but in the long run people would actually start running them again. The isk gained would drop significantly, but still be at comparable levels to l4 missioning (topping it slightly, when you're in a good fleet, and being roughly the same with junk fleets vs. non optimal l4 runners).
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#451 - 2012-06-13 15:39:13 UTC
Borlag Crendraven wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72880

Silly changes to be honest. It's not the 10% isk nerf that is killing incursion fleets, nor is it the influence bar although it was definitely better earlier. It's the pacing that's an issue, fleets running into roadblocks with sites not worth running.

If isk was their only concern, and it seems it really was, rollback ALL changes and nerf all incursion profits, including LP by 50% in high sec, 30% in null sec and leave low sec as is and the incursion community would complain about the nerf in the short run, but in the long run people would actually start running them again. The isk gained would drop significantly, but still be at comparable levels to l4 missioning (topping it slightly, when you're in a good fleet, and being roughly the same with junk fleets vs. non optimal l4 runners).


CCP decimated the Incursion numbers and took a 2 month wait & see it'll get better attitude. . CCP is now rolling back 1 very minor and 1 other major issue which don't address the root cause of the problem once again expecting it to magically cure itself

Niether rollback will bring back any numbers to the now dead NULL/LO Sec communities and once again we're hearing the same wait and see atitiude. CCP isn't addressing the root of the problem and is ignoring the 900 pound gorilla of the OTA's

What we got is the Tianic has sunk and the life rafts are throwing de Caprillo a life preserver saying don't worry we'll come back in a monh to see if you are ok. Roll
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'